NHT ST-4 Floorstanding Speakers
NHT ST-4 Floorstanding Speakers
USER REVIEWS
[Aug 15, 2024]
maryrosesss
Strength:
At first I thought they sounded a little warm and vague in the imaging. There are two ways to set them up. One is according to the manual with the grills on. If pointing them directly at your ears is whole (100% - 1/1) toe in, then you want to toe them in about 1/3 the way. Weakness:
None so far. Fort Worth Drywall Contractor Services Fort Worth TX |
[Nov 27, 2023]
davidson02
Strength:
Both setups offer superior high-end and excellent bass response. https://www.drywallamarillo satisfied with its purchase. Weakness:
None so far. Purchased: Used
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[Nov 25, 2023]
Johngeez
Strength:
Great imaging, tremendous bass, crisp highs, play with authority, beautiful finish, bi ampable, good power handling, Weakness:
Bass can be overwhelming if placed incorrectly, Price Paid: 275
Purchased: New
Model Year: 2023
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[Feb 11, 2008]
Reticuli
Audio Enthusiast
Weakness:
Lower mids; weird upper mids when cranked. These are finicky speakers. The weird load of the lower midrange presented by the midrange woofer is the biggest issue. When mono-amping, it gets sort of muddy. When bi-amping, the lower midrange gets recessed. There is a reason why most of the favorable magazine reviews say to use them with a tube amp...that's to warm up the lower mids. So I went from supremely finicky Bose, to still fairly finicky NHTs. It's not been a fun time. I would say your best bet with these is to find either a solid state that is very capable of handling complex 4ohm loads, as well as 8ohms, or get a very warm, powerful, yet detailed and delicate tube amp. That gets really expensive, and for a $750 speaker I'm not sure that's worth it. For less complex music, like the chamber variety, this speaker's staging and precision will know you socks off. But for anything more complex, multi-spectral, or demanding, it's going to give some problems. I honestly think classical is the last music you should be testing with speakers. |
[Oct 16, 2005]
Jan55
AudioPhile
Strength:
Excellent value. I heard better speakers out there but for at least a $1,000 more than the NHT's. The built-in subwoofers let you get that low feel-it-in-your-chest bass that I didn't get from other speakers in this price range. The separate mid-tweeter section lets you get that clean monitor sound with good imaging and clarity. Love these things with jazz, clean rock (Cheryl Crow /Steely Dan)& acoustic music.
Weakness:
The tweeter sound is a little hard sometimes (on some piano music) and they can get muddy when driven really loud. But they can be driven sufficiently loud for normal serious listening. The reccesed mids do not favor hard guitar driven rock. These are very good speakers for the money. I Use them for stereo only. Comments from other readers are mostly accurate except for the negative biamping comments. I played around with a lot of different arrangements and found that biamping them works best for me. Maybe a much more expensive/powerful amp would work for non-biamping, but then I probably wouldn't spend that kind of money on these speakers. I use a 50 watt tube amp for the mids/highs and a cheap ($100)100 watts/channel stereo amp for the subwoofer. I connected the two amps to the different outputs on my basic Sony dvd player and they sounded better than the non-biamped arrangement. Then I bought a Benchmark DAC1 (greatest thing sice sliced bread). Now I connect the amps to the different stereo outputs on the DAC. This thing sounds better than great. The mids/highs are very accurate, smooth and clean. The bass is reasonably tight. Sometimes they can be a little bright or hard on some music. I do have acoustical room treatment (inexpensive foam pyramid and corner blocks) which improves the imaging and reduces the bass boom. Similar Products Used: My System (Total Cost ~$3,000): Jolida 302b integrated amp. Insignia 100 watt stereo amp (from Best Buy). Sony $140 dvd changer. |
[Sep 02, 2005]
scrappler
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
Truly Excellent Speakers Low price-Great Value Outperforms many higher priced speakers.
Weakness:
If you have kids running around the house, these speakers will show where their hands have been. A CSI episode would last 5 minutes if the victim had these speakers. After reading the reviews on the ST-4 I purchased them to complete my home theater system. From much of what I these seemed mostly for home theater, but after listening to them in 2 channel mode I can't stop listening to music on them. The overall imaging is excellent. I have not bi-amped these so I really haven't tapped into what the subs can do, and I probably will just let my seperate sub do all the low frequency work. The black piano finish is great, but I wish they had some options for color/finish, although I probably would have still gotten the black. It will show fingerprints very easily, so look out for menacing hands. To cpmplete the home theater I will be matching these with the SC-2 center channel. I am definately not an audiophile but after auditioning these, there was nothing that compared. Sure, there are better speakers out there but you begin to start paying $3000 and up. For the price there is nothing I have heard that compares. Similar Products Used: Energy-Klipsch-JBL |
[Nov 24, 2004]
Reticuli
AudioPhile
I just have a word of warning for all of you. DO NOT BI-AMP THESE SPEAKERS. I don't know why, but they still just weren't sounding quite right to my ears no matter what I did. I put the jumpers back and just monoamped it and BAM! They had to be repositioned, but they're much much better. Most of my complaints about stealy highs and exaggerated chestyness still apply, but they are much less exaggerated now. The lumpyness in the bass is now almost completely gone and voices/vocals are more present and linear. The highest highs are there, too. I don't know if it was my HK 7200 or the NHT's, but something was wrong. Not anymore. I still feel they sound best with the grills on, though. And they have to be closer to the wall...about a 11 inches at the distance I'm sitting at to get the right low end. In a bigger room I think you need them further away because you lose highs. In fact I'm pretty sure with a bigger room and no TV between them they'd sound much better. The Downward Spiral has never sounded so good, and I just found out it was rereleased on SACD HYBRID and DVD-A...goodie. Sorry to post again, but the biamping issue absolutely needs to be mentioned. Is it just me, but do some DTS movies sound better in DD? Some DTS sound really warm and muddy. True Romance, for instance. |
[Aug 06, 2004]
Jeff Alexander
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
Clarity and balance. Depth and imaging
Weakness:
I wish they had a option of another finnish. Black is nice but I felt I was buying a Model T. You cann have it in any colour as long as it is black. Puchased the ST4's after a long search for new and used. Listened to Paradigm, Kef, B&w, Monitor Audio, Axiom & many others. I had a space problem and these fit the bill. I did have to have them placed with the bass driver facing inwards because of a shielding problem. With the drivers facing the walls my 36" GAOO was looking like it was ready for the dump. Once I flipped them the shielding problem was resolved. The top half of the speaker is shilded but not the bottom. Bass was not a concern as I have a PSB Stratus 7 for bottom end. I was suprised how nice they sounded with this set up for music listening. I did find they required more juice than the CYRUS Mission 782's that they replaced with my Nad receiver, but they really come to life when the volume goes up. Great for acoustic and rock music. I am now looking to have the center SC2 to complete the front. Great speakers for the money period. You will be hard pressed to find a speaker that can do as much as this one for both music and movies. Similar Products Used: Mission, Paradigm, B&W, Kef |
[Jul 07, 2004]
lrstevens421
AudioPhile
Strength:
Great Styling Great Imaging Crystal clear detail
Weakness:
None at this price I couldn't agree more with the other reviews about the performance of the ST4's. I am a audiophile from NYC and I am very impressed with these towers. I can't rave enough about the styling of these speakers. The imaging of these speakers are superb. I am a very critical listener, I sometimes can't even bare to listen to my car stereo (that's how bad it's gotten). Although NHT advertises them as home theater speakers they sound very impressive in a 2-channel set up. Everyone knows how hard it is to combine 2-channel stereo and home theater in one system, these speakers are very convincing. I upgraded from the JMLabs Chorus series and these blow them away. I'm not sure what speaker cables and interconnects most people are using but upgrading those will also enhance your listening experience. I have upgraded around these speakers and my impression is the better the electronics you put into them the better they sound. My ST4's are being driven by a Fosgate FAP T1 Preamp/Processor and a Rotel RMB 1075 power amp, and all I have to say is wow. My preamp retails for $3000.00, the ST4's retail for a fraction of that, but you'll never know it just by listening to them. Similar Products Used: Infinity beta 50 JMLabs Chorus |
[May 23, 2004]
Reticuli
AudioPhile
I just wanted to update this. I've decided to tell all of you that the grills off orientation is actually not that great, though the Absolute Sound raved about it and NHT's head designer was the one who recommended it as an alternative to the configuration described in the manual. The 8khz spike is a little more noticeable, even without any toe-in. The NHT's already have a very slight metallic quality to the highs. This is a delayed energy problem at 5khz mentioned by Stereophile in the SB-3. Any boost in sibilance makes this minor flaw fairly noticeable. There's also a slight bump around 800hz that exaggerates recorded room resonance in vocals, as well as a sort of throaty resonance halfway between chesty and nasal. The grills off, strait forward approach seems to cause this bump to be more noticeable, as if surrounding frequencies are being surpressed slightly. The NHT does have some beaming in the lower mids and upper highs, so this may be what is occuring when you point their axis completely away from you. Even the mid-bass bump seems to stick out more with the grills off. I tried moving my seat closer; tried moving the speakers closer together...it sounded great with Matrix Reloaded, but CD's sounded a little lumpy and incosistent. The precision of individual sounds was amazing, but I suspect the 8khz boost may have had something to do with it, not a sudden absence of difussion from the grills. With the grills on but the speakers directly at me, the mids are extremely forward and I can't turn up the speakers as high without it sounding louder than it should...the voices became downright shouty. I think I settled on like 13" from the back wall, 33.25" from the side walls, and 90" from my seating position. The ST-4's are almost exactly 1.5 times further away from me as the speakers are apart, or slightly further apart from each other. The grills are back on and they are towed-in 25-33% (if directly at me is 100% tow-in). After these small adjustments in position, the out-of-phase spread and in-phase focus suddenedly snapped into place. There's very little clumping of images into L-C-R. Stereo panning is now fluid and the height has returned. The midbass and lower-mid bumps, as well as the slight steeliness, are all still there to some degree, but they don't stick out at normal volumes. The surrounding areas of the response seem to fill in. The upper mids have pulled back a little, but I'd rather have slightly recessed mids than foward ones. And now I can really crank it, using only the encroaching steeliness as evidence of when it's playing too loud. That low-mids bump was making every voice sound far too resonant before and made everything but the best ADR sound like it was recorded in extremely live rooms. This is much reduced and things sound more normal. The bass still goes very low and is of course in stereo, which if you've been using bookshelfs (with or without a sub) is a huge shock. Having full range stereo speakers is integral to the audio experience. A sub is fine for dedicated LFE, but you simply are not hearing things as intended with little fronts. There is a great deal of production going into the low frequencies of recordings, and dumping them into a mono sub is nonsense. The NHT's ability to produce usable sound down to the low 30hz's is mindblowing compared to the Boss system that's now in the bedroom. They actually reproduce down just below 20hz, but it's extremely faint. I've honestly never heard a home speaker (excluding subs) reproduce that low before. You can do better than them (sound quality wise) for $1000, but it'd be a high-end bookshelf speaker (like the Alan Petite), and that wouldn't include stands or significant low end. The compramises and flaws of the ST-4's are nicely managed and at a happy medium, turning into nothing but minor nitpicks until you reach extreme volumes. They have a signiture sound, but it's something I'm finding works well with most music and films. And I'm concluding this even though there's a TV between my speakers, which if gone, would probably allow them to perform at their true potential. |