Vandersteen 1C Floorstanding Speakers
Vandersteen 1C Floorstanding Speakers
USER REVIEWS
[Jun 16, 2018]
john titor
Strength:
in a larger well-damped room [at least 300 sq/ft] at least 5' from side walls and 3' from back walls, and at least 10 feet distance from the speakers, they "float" an image with real palpable depth. bass extends/is usable down to the low 20s in smaller rooms, or at least they give a semblance of bass down there in terms of feeling/hearing the pulse of the low organ pipes down there. non-fatiguing, non-harsh with various types of music, not just restricted to a few audiophile-approved recordings. not picky about ancillary equipment. Weakness:
ultimately veiled in terms of inner voice resolution, hard volume limit, severe doppler distortion when trying to reproduce high volume organ bass pedal tones below about 32 cycles, below vent tuning frequency. [by comparison, my 4+ decade old radio shack acoustic suspension job handles the same deep bass pedal tones [albeit not as cleanly] without protest. gets shouty around the crossover frequency [2.8kcycles] if listener sits closer than about 10 feet, especially in rooms smaller than 200 sq/ft or so. one must crank them up to hear inner detail of complex music, even on audiophile amps. I auditioned them on a Rega Brio amp as well as 3-decade old JVC amp, and got similar sound with both. they MUST be used with the tilting stands, AND toed in somewhat, for the imaging to happen in the right room. their sweet spot is head-sized, both horizontally and vertically, they do not pass the sit/stand test. I was searching for "mellow" but accurate speakers that would let me listen to all my music collection. I did a lot of googling and the most mellow descriptions belonged to this model. i'd heard the original model 1 back a few decades and found that while they were mellow and pumped out the deep bass [at moderate volume], they didn't musically involve me. fast forward a few decades and read good reviews of the latest update, the model 1Ci, found 'em on ebay for the right price, took a chance. this is what I found- the bass would plumb organ-pedal-deep but it lacked impact or "slam" and was inconsistent, from room to room that I tried them in, stronger bass in smaller rooms but then they got shouty because I was sitting in the mid field [these are strictly a far-field-voiced speaker]. larger rooms got rid of the shoutiness but then the bass got thin unless I pushed 'em up against the back wall, but then the imaging collapsed around the speakers. ultimately I found that they tended to make my music sound relatively bass-thin and veiled, so I retired them and replaced them with a pair of Thiel CS.5s which [aside from deep bass power handling/extension] outperformed them in every way including transparency and utter lack of harshness/lister fatigue. Price Paid: 500
Purchased: Used
Model Year: 2012
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[Mar 08, 2014]
Joe F
Audio Enthusiast
I purchased a pair of 1c's from John Rutan at Audio Connection in N.J. in 2009. I've known John since Richard Vandersteen clued me in on him in 1991. I've owned 2ci's and 2ce's previously. They were both great speakers. The system I currently have is the one I've spent the most time building. The 1c's are excellent speakers. I listened to many speakers over the years, I've been into audio since 1985. Every time I turn on my system I have to stop to listen. I am using a 50 watt tube integrated and with the Vandersteens I end up listening for extended periods of time. I've come very close to being late for work several times trying to break away. This is the first system I've owned that has done this to me. There is zero listening fatigue yet the detail and even the brashness of a horn or feedback from a guitar is there. The treble is extended but not edgy. This is pretty close to miraculous when it comes to design work using a metal alloy tweeter and Richard Vandersteen is at the top of the list when it comes to speaker design. I can't pick up on the transition from the tweeter to the midrange/woofer driver it just doesn't seem to be there. There is no overhang from the drivers to blur the sound. I see alot of other speakers at and above this price level getting strong praise in magazines. I've listened to alot of these speakers. I've owned some of them as well. They don't add up to the Vandersteens. Add in a great dealer like Joh Rutan and you have a little piece of heaven right here on earth. Have fun. |
[Dec 09, 2010]
KEREN4U
AudioPhile
This a speaker which will find itself at home in almost any setting. I purchased the 1C's new after having read
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[Jul 03, 2010]
deemik
AudioPhile
I have owned a pair of 1C's for about 8 months. My equipment consists of a manley stingray, Sugden CD player, SOTA turntable, bellari tube phono stage, GRADO cartridge and Van Den Hul cables. I listen to a variety of music such as Classical, Jazz, Pop, Rock and Blues. My review of the 1C's has been done well over about 500 hours of playing time on the speakers with my own electronics in a 3.5m X 6m room. The 1C's has been very difficult in placement from the day I bought the speaker. Images are quite difficult to balance in my room. They do perform better in large rooms though. I've found that the 1C's play bass as if it was a single note, quite a weak sense of pitch in the low notes. An instrument such as a bass guitar lacked power and authority. A piano moving between the registers sounded 40 foot wide moving from one side to the other as opposed to sounding togehter. The presentation I found was quite laid back lacking involvement. The midrange plays quite weak in general. The upper frequencies does have good extension but lacks refinement and sounds as a little cheap. The 1C's however present a large soundstage and do show off when partnered with better elecotronics. They can also be positioned closer to side walls and sound good when positioned straight or toed in. They are quite transparent for a speaker at this price. I think overall that the 1C's are a decent value for money but one could do better with spending a little extra money on a pair of loudspeakers. |
[Mar 03, 2009]
Jim
Audio Enthusiast
I can't say enough about the quality of this speaker. I recently purchased a pair used for $375, which is an absolute steal. I've been familiar with Vandersteen speakers since 1988. A high school friend's father had the original Model 1's and they were great with Yamaha receiver.
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[Aug 10, 2008]
ericshook
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
Sweet vocals, even better drums, smooth highs, not fatiguing, and can grow with your upgrades in electronics. You could never doubt this speaker could fit in well with $50k worth of electronics and even then show you what you did wrong.
Weakness:
For some people, bass is lacking. I say, go climb a tree! I've been waiting some time to write this review. In that time I've had a chance to settle down and clearly in my head plot without question what I want to say here. I LOVE THESE SPEAKERS! My wife ran over the demo pair the audio shop had lent me over the weekend with her car, because I think she saw they made me smile in a way she never could. The fellows at Audio Advice where shocked but bit the bullet and said don't worry about it. Nice guys. The great news was that I ordered a pair to be built that day and still have them now. Sadly I did not keep the wife. Back to the speakers. They would probably get passed over if my place got robbed, but that's OK. They are sleepers in that since, but everywhere else that are fantastic. I find them not to be short on bass, but just about right for my needs. In larger rooms they may not do so bad, and as for placement I find them rather forgiving compared to other Vandersteen models. I am upgrading to the 2ce Sig Mk2's here in a few months, but will always miss my 1c's. Oh .. and yeah ... I'll miss the wife too. Pssshh Customer Service The guys at Audio Advice have my heart. Similar Products Used: Polk Lsi9's(best bookshelf I've owned) |
[Jul 26, 2008]
bt54
AudioPhile
Strength:
Great Value
Weakness:
Very laid back
I recently purcased a set of Vandersteen 1C;s for my studio - a budget project. The reviews I read were all over thetop about the 1C's. When I set up the 1C's the soundstage was fantastic. The presetation was netral and the clarity was good.
Customer Service Not Applicable Similar Products Used: B&W CM4 - B&W CDM-9NT's, B&W 705, B&W DM601 |
[Feb 08, 2008]
abcxyz
AudioPhile
Strength:
Weakness:
-some may not like their looks but after you hear them, it is pretty easy to get past that even with the wives
I am very fortunate to have heard them early in my audio demoing! They became my standard to recognize a quality speaker. Firstly, they are very open and natural sounding. This is due to the multi-directional dispersement of the sound from a cabinetless speaker. Also, the bass is definitely comes out in the music in a very natural but not in an obtrusive way. It is a true full-range speaker that attempts to play all the frequency range from top to bottom in a balanced way. While it is slightly laid-back sounding, that is nice if you listen to music for long periods of time. I feel like I am in the fourth row of a live show when I hear them.
Customer Service Nick is great guy at Audio Concepts in Houston. He let me hear them alone for an hour and I was really impressed with the speakers! I also called the manufacturer and actually talked to Richard Vandersteen who is a genius for thinking outside the box on the design of this speaker. Bravo Richard!
Similar Products Used: Vandersteen 2Ce Sigs, 1B, Quad 12L, Decware DM944. |
[Feb 16, 2007]
Rob
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
great imaging, smooth, full bodied and, at the price point simply outstanding. There is a reason that Vandersteen is a 20+ year major player in an industry where companies come and go in a few mere years --- great performance anf greater value.
Weakness:
low frequency extension, for an $800, is very good --- but on the absolute scale is aweakness (relative to say most 2K speakers). However, the low frequency performance can be wildly enhanced with good cables (speaker wire). This is my third review of these speakers --- why three? With each upgrade made in electronics the speakers blossom more. I now have gone to an older solid state McIntosh amp and upgraded with MIT AVt 3 speaker wire (at $250). These speakers sound excellent, smooth, non-fatigunig, open and rich with cheap electronics -- typical Pioneer, Sony mainstream $150 amps and $200 CD players. But.... if you get a fine amp these speakers can simply be amazing. But the real issue to share is the speaker cable --- going from typical $40 speaker wires to the $250 MIT cables made the 1c's so much more full bodied, and the difference in base performance was staggering (so too was the imaging capability of the system). I was contemplating going to a $700 subwoofer to supplement the 1c's but the cables did the job far better --- allowing you to retain the coherence of the 1c's w/o muddying up things with a subwoofer --- and the cables made these speakers truely full range.
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[Oct 20, 2006]
Rob holman
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
great imag depth, smooth, non-fatiguing sound, great timbre, plays well at low volume
Weakness:
poor vertical dispersion --- but when on stands this problem disappears This is my second review of the Vandersteen 1c's --- I write this second review to inform 1c owners of a way to vastly improve to sound of the 1c's. The 1c's are smooth, non-fatiguing, rich sounding speakers that image well (with one major flaw), are fairly transparent (if you have a decent amp), play beautifully at low volume, provide gorgeous vocals and are simply outstanding at this price point --- literally being competitive , very competitive, with speakers at twice the price. I have had mine for 7 years now and love them --- now more than ever. The flaw eluded to earlier regarding imaging is that the 1c's have severely limited vertical dispersion --- it is as if the musicians are all 3 ft tall --- and this really hurts any sense of realism. Richard Vandersteen says not to place the 1c's on stands. I have, nonetheless, placed the 1c's on cheap stands (four cinder blocks per stand, placing the 1c tweeter a full 18 inches higher than without the stands). What a difference! Vastly superior! The sound stage is so much larger and the other attributes of the speaker seem to be enhanced as well. So, try it. It is cheap and the speakers sound, literally, night and day better when the tweeters are at ca. 4.5 ft off the ground rather than at 3 feet. Similar Products Used: Epos
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