Denon AVR-3801 A/V Receivers
Denon AVR-3801 A/V Receivers
[Feb 06, 2001]
Garry
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
nearly everything
Weakness:
not many things For Jeff M and Ken W below: |
[Mar 01, 2001]
Phil
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
Relatively easy to use, decent sound
Weakness:
none for my needs I bought this receiver along with the Energy Encore 5 speaker system to replace my old NAD AV713 Pro Logic receiver and Phase Technology PC-80 speakers (I only used my old setup as a 2-channel system). Because I replaced both the receiver and the speakers, I can't really get specific about what is better or worse in the sound quality of the 3801, just that overall I'm happy with how it has performed as the center of my new home theater. (Check out the review I wrote in the Energy Encore 5 section on this site). Note that I have an audiophile-level system that I use just for music (mark levinson 383 integrated amp, arcam fmj-cd23 cd player, and audio physic virgo speakers), so this review is primarily focused on the 3801 as a home theater receiver. Similar Products Used: NAD AV713 Pro Logic receiver |
[Mar 03, 2001]
Rocco .
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
Feels like i'm at the movies
Weakness:
none for me Bought this of a friend that upgraded to 5800 and let me say i'm happier than can be.Enough power for my room and rocks my polk speakers.Previous garbage kenwood receiver m Similar Products Used: none |
[Mar 06, 2001]
Dave
Audiophile
Strength:
Very good sound stage, lots of power, DTS-ES Rocks, Widescreen mode is good too.
Weakness:
It would be nice to have the EX matrix to automatically flag the receiver to go into 7.1 mode...but can live without it. Also, the Manual is a joke. I learned most of the operations just my trial and error. Comparing this product to the ones mentioned above isn't as easy as you may think. They all sound really good. Why did I choose Denon? Well, it had the advantage over the Onkyo 787 because of 7.1 vs 6.1 (two rear speakers instead of one). Also, the Denon seemed to be "built" a little better. I think the Onkyo 787 is a little overpriced just to have the THX Select logo on it. As far as the "Flagship" receivers compared to this model, they do sound better...but NOT $2000 better. I have a good ear for sound, and there is no way you could convince me that for between $1000 and $2000 more that you can hear that much difference. I did a blind test of the 3801 and the 5800 side by side, and I could tell the difference between the two. But for $2000...No way...save your money! As far as the Marantz goes, I just didn't want to deal with external mono block amps for the rear center speakers and they don't have the flexibility of the "widescreen" DSP mode to utilize the rear speakers with any 5.1 source. I did over 6 months worth of listening and research before deciding on the Denon. Also, it should be noted that this is the FIRST Denon product I have ever bought, and I am not an easy sell. Also, be careful where you buy the product from, because if something goes wrong, Denon will only stand behind their product if purchased from an "authorized" retailer. For $150-$200 more, think of it as insurance. Similar Products Used: Onkyo 787, Onky 989, Denon AVR 5800, Marantz SR-18EX & SR-19EX |
[Mar 06, 2001]
Dave
Audiophile
Strength:
Very good sound stage, lots of power, DTS-ES Rocks, Widescreen mode is good too.
Weakness:
It would be nice to have the EX matrix to automatically flag the receiver to go into 7.1 mode...but can live without it. Also, the Manual is a joke. I learned most of the operations just my trial and error. Comparing this product to the ones mentioned above isn't as easy as you may think. They all sound really good. Why did I choose Denon? Well, it had the advantage over the Onkyo 787 because of 7.1 vs 6.1 (two rear speakers instead of one). Also, the Denon seemed to be "built" a little better. I think the Onkyo 787 is a little overpriced just to have the THX Select logo on it. As far as the "Flagship" receivers compared to this model, they do sound better...but NOT $2000 better. I have a good ear for sound, and there is no way you could convince me that for between $1000 and $2000 more that you can hear that much difference. I did a blind test of the 3801 and the 5800 side by side, and I could tell the difference between the two. But for $2000...No way...save your money! As far as the Marantz goes, I just didn't want to deal with external mono block amps for the rear center speakers and they don't have the flexibility of the "widescreen" DSP mode to utilize the rear speakers with any 5.1 source. I did over 6 months worth of listening and research before deciding on the Denon. Also, it should be noted that this is the FIRST Denon product I have ever bought, and I am not an easy sell. Also, be careful where you buy the product from, because if something goes wrong, Denon will only stand behind their product if purchased from an "authorized" retailer. For $150-$200 more, think of it as insurance. Similar Products Used: Onkyo 787, Onky 989, Denon AVR 5800, Marantz SR-18EX & SR-19EX |
[Mar 19, 2001]
Mike
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
biuld quality
Weakness:
owners manual Lots of power. great dolby digital prossesser. If you are looking for a well built powerful unit this ones for you. I hooked it up to my Energy loud speakers and it rocked. I purchased it from www.acousticsounddesign.com with great results. Thy did everything they said they would and more. I am planning on purchasing a power conditioner from them at the end of the month. Similar Products Used: none |
[Mar 27, 2001]
John
Casual Listener
Strength:
Easy setup, great sound
Weakness:
learning remote hard to setup, heavy, binding posts too close Excellent receiver, does everything I want/need. Great audio sound and surround capabilities are close to perfect. Similar Products Used: demoed Onkyo 787, Sony DB940 |
[Mar 28, 2001]
Ted
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
Sound quality is intense
Weakness:
Remote and user manuel This receiver is the bomb! Crisp! Clean! and unbelievable! I only wish there were more DTS movies! Similar Products Used: Denon Avr 610 |
[Apr 02, 2001]
royce
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
Built in Japan.
Weakness:
Runs warmer than my old Yamaha. Overkill with DTS-ES. Multi-room feature, also overkill. Difficult to program, Lack of controls from unit itself (e.g. can't get to AM or FM radio from unit - only from remote control based on pre-sets. My wife hated it!). Poorly written manual - the worst I've seen. This receiver is decent for HT, but everything in the $1,000 price range should be. However, it falls short when playing music compared to its competitors. The music reproduction was very "bright" and hard to listen over an extended time. Similar Products Used: Yamaha, Marantz, Onkyo, Arcam |
[Apr 13, 2001]
Joseph Jaenisch
Audiophile
Strength:
The 6.1 and 7.1 option is awesome, music sounds excellent, video too.
Weakness:
Not enough digital inputs/outputs. The on-screen displays. I have not yet brought this piece. I am still comparing models. But I do have to say I am leaning towards this unit. Similar Products Used: Onkyo DS787, Yamaha RX-V1000, and Pioneer VSX-36TX |