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I spent a lot of time listening and reviewing recievers before making this purchse. I am very happy with it.

I plugged in the competing onkyo (integra) receiver into the same speakers (atlantic technology system 370THX w/ kimbercable 14 GA) and I could tell a difference right away.

The Denon sounded more smooth and was much easier on my ears at high volumes for extended periods of time. My conclusion is that this receiver was worth the extra money over the onkyo piece.

I recently had an audio video company install a projector for me. I had them listen to my system and they said they liked it just as much as the separates system they had on their showroom.

I would recommend this receiver to anyone who wants a great home theater experience! Make sure you get good cable as well.

Similar Products Used:

Onkyo Integra 9.1, Sony DA-555ES

Excellent for Home Theather and shinin in surround modes.

Not very musical for music listening.Crossover not going over 80 Hz for bass,( no real bass management), some hiss in the background, receiver cannot pump out 170 REAL by 7 watts( no way this can happen in the " real world),THX mode is just more marketing that reality, too expensive for what really is, not very musical, can't have fronts setup as small and rears as large, no able to renaming inputs, no 5 years warranty, no upgradable, no pre-amp out and amp-in connections, no separate memory settings for Neo, Music and Cinema, poor writen manual, no support for Dolby Pro Logic II, expensive.

I know many people will hate me here for this review but to be honest I don't care. I'm just posting the true and honest review.

I'm myself a musician, a violin player and I know how is the real sound of the instruments. I know how the instruments really sound when you are in a recording studio. I can't find this " close to" real sound in the Denon. But this unit is amazing for surround modes and excellent for Home Theater applications ONLY where I can give a very good rating. But , this is NOT happening with music in 2 channels stereo where this unit miss lots of details and is unable to give a very accurated sound reproduction.

After 30 days I decided to return the Denon and I went for the B&K AVR 307 better suited for my personal music taste.

I believe that the Denon as B&K depends of personal taste and listening preferences but in that circle, IMHO I really believe that B&K beats Denon by the mile.

I don't want to create any debate here but I personally don't like the " musicality" in Denon and I returned after 30 days auditioning at home with my setup. I went for the B&K AVR 307 and I'm very happy and convinced with the B&K sound just after 20 days auditioning the B&K. I'm NOT returning this one. B&K is better suited to my musical tates and audio preferences in music listing.

I DO NOT work for B&K, I DO NOT sell BOSE and I'm NOT related with this audio industry in any way. I'm a former violin player that plays sometimes for fun, not for the money. I'm not a retired musician but I don'y play anymore for personal reasons.

I'm in the CATV and Satellite business,I'm a happy business owner making my living in other fields and I DON'T care about flames posted by others who can disagree with this MY PERSONAL review. Is just a matter of personal taste. I respect what others posted here and I hope the same way my opinion WILL BE respected the same way.


My equipment ( lots of money expended here)is as follow:

B&K AVR 307
Speakers:
2Infinity Rennaisance 90 biwered with MIT Terminator 2 biwired for MUSIC only (2 channels stereo)

2 Infinity Rennaisance 80 biwered with MIT Terminator 2 biwired.( Main speakers for Home Theater applications.) )

2 Surround Speakers Infinity Reference RS5 ( surround)

1 Center Speaker B&W CMTNT
2 Subwoofers (2 units) Velodyne HGS 15 ( left and right)

Rotel CD Player RCD 975

Turntable Thorens TD-190
Pioneer Compact Disc Recorder PDR-W739

TDS True Dimensional Sound Passive connected in line
between Rotel CD and the 307.( This is an amazing equipment).

TV Pioneer Elite Pro 510 HD

DVB Player Toshiba 6200

Monster Line Conditioner HTS 5000

All this equipment is connected using MIT Terminator for speakers and Monster Cable M1000I for audio interconnects and Monster M500V for Video Interconnects.

Lionel Remigio

Similar Products Used:

B&K 307, Onkyo Integra DTR 7.1, Pioneer Elite VSX 36TX,

Well built, clean sounding, loads of features.

Remote

Really just here for two comments. This is one of the three best receivers out there along with the B&K 307 and Marantz SR14.

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Re the Mark Levison / Bob / john comments.
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Just for fun, I contacted Mark Levinson at Red Rose Music and asked about the review and to see if he might leave one for the B&K 307 he seemed to like so much. He replied "I haven't left any comments about either receiver." So I asked him to take a look at this thread and comment. He said "It says Audiophile from CA, not me."

So the Mark Levinson in this thread is not THE Mark Levinson of Red Rose Music and Mark Levinson amplifier fame. I thought I needed to clear this up since many people might be swayed by comments from such an icon in the industry.

From my own auditioning, I give it 5 stars for Value (at the street price) and 4 stars for overall (losing one for the awkward remote).

Roger

Similar Products Used:

B&K 307, Onkyo 989

sonically incredible, Steroid enhanced muscle without brain damage, as nimble as a gymnist.

Too big for the home, not big enough for a full size theatre, remote in its 1st generation stage (from a denon standpoint).

This is a monster of a component. The clarity was scary (due to all the DACs maybe, 16 total 2 per channel), and the phantom punch that you receive from watching movies will leave you with a concussion. Between the 5800 and the 307 it was a photo finish. The Denon had just a little more of what I was looking for. I am a movie first, music second type of person and Denon won out in this race don't get me wrong, the B&K and Marantz did a fanstastic job in all areas, its just when I think of home theatre with movie theatre sound the denon ran a faster race.

I really wasn't concerned with how it would hold up to other brands, I was really trying to see if in fact it is a true upgrade from the 5700. In my opinion it blows it out the water. Everthing has been greatly improved from the remote to the bleed I was receiving prior to hearing the music or movie soundtrack. I love Denon because they give you more of what you are after which is the SOUND. In all the magazines it is placed up against middle to top-end separates which is in short outstanding. Finally we the consumers are getting more for our money. Of course, you get what you pay for and no I did not pay full price for this model but, I would in a heartbeat.

Anyone who takes the time to research something before purchasing will more likely be happier in the end. Listening to the experts is half of what it takes in selecting something the other half is you actually going out and evaluate things for yourself. Some of the reviews have me a little puzzled. I know that everyone has ther own point of view, but, i really can't understand how a person who I am sure is not a certified technician in audio (If you were you would not have a review on this site) can evaluate something that is in high praise by all the expert standards, can even consider this unit to be ensufficiant. Even though the experts have the proper set up, room acoustics, speakers, wire, connectors, a sharpe ear, comparable equipment, and time. By no means am I saying that you can't feel that way, I am just saying that people should know what they should be loking for . Example; 16x9 vs. 4:3 which one is the correct way to watch movies. (Translation) make sure you are doing the correct way before you evaluate.

I recommened this unit to anyone with the desire to have a great hometheatre center piece with the sonic voice and muscle of high quality separates.

My System:
AVR5800
Speakers: Boston
vr12 center
vr975 fronts
vrmx side and rears
2 vr2000 subs
Toshiba SD9200 progressive
Toshiba TW40X81 HD ready
monster power supply
12 gauge speaker wire

Similar Products Used:

B&K Avr307, Marantz top Avr(cannot remember to model) and Avr5700.

170 watts of clean POWER. Decodes all current sound formats.
Sounds Beautiful!

Remote is laid out . . . maybe not poorly, but it could have been better.

Setup was easy. I had it up and running in about 20 minutes. The remote while easy to use, isn't laid out well and has poor response time. The quality of the Denon 5800 itself, is nothing short of fantastic! It has plently of inputs for future use. The "Pure Direct" mode vastly improved the sound of CDs. The two sets of 7.1 analog inputs is very nice so you can run both DVD Audio and SACD. With 170 watts power per channel, the 5800 doesn't clip during demanding use. Run, don't walk to your local dealer and buy this AV receiver. You won't be disappointed!

Similar Products Used:

Yamaha 2095, Denon 5700

quality, Aktis remote, presentation

cost

I just saw the Denon presentation of their new receiver, the 5800, at the CEDIA expo in Indianapolis, IN this past weekend, and I must say I was impressed. Just looking at this piece of gear, I knew it would be a winner. I've read multiple articles in Widescreen Magazine, Home Theater, etc. about this piece, but after hearing it perform, I wanted to sign a check for right then and there. In the Denon booth at the Expo, they paired up their 5800 with Mission speakers and a RUNCO projector. The demonstration included the Terminator 2 DVD and a 6.1 Discrete Don Henley tune for comparision. The 6.1 Matrix and Discrete modes blew me away especially the THX trailer at the beginning of T2. I couldn't beleive that all that sound came from one piece! Don't get me wrong, separates have some of the best sounding performance I've ever heard, but for a $3200 A/V receiver, it far suprasses the Marantz and Okyo's at that price level. The Aktis remote was also a treat, non-withstanding the $600 price tag built into the package. This remote is certainly the best to come out of Denon so far. I've owned the AVR 2500 remote for some time now and it's been very functional. I have to say that after 10 minutes of fiddling with the Aktis, I knew it back and forth. One of the best qualities, I found, was that just about every electronic's manufacturer remote code was built in. There is nothing I hate more than programming remotes. Another big plus was the fact that it uses both IR and RF frequencies. It's good for up to 150 ft from the base.
Breaking news!...Denon will release the AVR-3800, to be shipped in two weeks, as the younger brother to the AVR-5800. The difference being that the 3800 is not THX-Utra certified and it sports a 105 watts x 7 amplification. Estimated reatil on this piece is $1100.00. It includes all 6.1 Discrete, 6.1 Matrix, and 6.1 Neo processing. Not a bad price at all for it's capabilities. With regards to future-proofing, the 5800 did it's homework. It has 2 addtional outputs for future amplification as well as outputs for SACD and other future formats. I was very impressed that one of the back panels of this unit is detachable to accommodate FireWire in the future. All in all, the AVR 5800 is the receiver I will purchase. I've done a lot of research on upgrading my AVR 2500 and simply hearing the 5800 perform this weekend, made my mind up.

Similar Products Used:

Denon AVR-2500

The 5800 is to expensive for what it is. It just doesn't have the sound quality for me. Don't get me wrong it is a good receiver and it has plenty of worthy attributes but I can't recommend it to anyone when I know that there is a much better receiver out there. The B&K avr307, in my opinion, is a superior product for almost the same cost. Here is some of the points that I think make it a better buy.

1. Sound- the B&K sounds like separates, the 5800 does not. The B&K plays music with better tone and more realistically. It plays louder with less distortion
2. Back panel- more organized than the 5800. better layout. more digital connections
3. Binding posts- Nice, well spaced, easy to receive big wire
4. Built quality- much better on the B&K
5. Features- the B&k does not have any of those cheap dsp modes. better adjustments on the B&K for cross-over and just about everything else.
6. Remote-the 5800's remote is ok but I have a pronto so I really don't care. The B&K remote is very usable.

One thing that I have to admit about the 5800, it has more component video inputs and it has good dts-es playback. But The amount of binding posts on the back is ridiculous and poorly organized. In conclusion I believe that the 5800 is a good product just not the one for me. I would recommend that anyone looking at this receiver should also audition the B&K 307.
Oh one more thing at least the 5800 doesn?t have a big fan on the back like the 4800. The 4800 a good receiver but I give it a big thumbs down for the huge fan and other problems. I hate fan noise.

Similar Products Used:

B&K avr307

Sound Quality, Supurb Digital Decoding and Clean Power

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Hay, Fenix
I think your Review is in the wrong Product Selection. Your review is all about B&k and is placed on the DENON 5800. People come to read this section is to find how good or bad the DENON 5800 is and certainly NOT to find out your comments about B&K. I think your review is pretty much useless for readers and to me you sound like someone selling B&K. In my view 5800 not only out performs most of the low end seperates but also comes very close to high end seperates.

Similar Products Used:

YAMAHA, ONKYO

Most all surround formats. If it isn't there, it will be available for upgrade soon. Enough power to drive bigger speakers. Is quite good for music as well as movies.

Not the cleanest or clearest sound for two channel music.

I am posting this review for two reasons. One, to express my honest opinion regarding this receiver made by Denon, which I believe is only second best behind Onkyo's DTR 9.1 on a list of many flagship receivers. I have listened to pretty much every receiver out there and to me this Denon 5800 is almost the best. I say that because I do believe the DTR 9.1 is the best though not by much. The DTR 9.1, to me, performs a little better for music. It breathes air into music and is a little more precise in displaying its musicality. The 5800 comes very close and for a receiver does quite a good job. For movies the two are equal. They will blow away a lot of seperates for home theater. Not to say that I would prefer the 5800 to say the Home Theater Standard or something but compared to say the AVM-2 or the B&K 30 pre/pro they provide great money/value.

The second reason for posting this review is to post mark on Sal's head for submitting such a rediculus review. Anyone who claims to be such a great audiophile so adimately and claim to be "President" of his audiophile club in a review, then in the next sentence mention the this receiver is crap cannot truly be serious. I am not saying people can't have their own opinion on this receiver. If someone honestly doesn't like this receiver, that's fine, post a message detailing what exactly you didn't like about it to help other people decide for themselves. Instead you decided to flame it and not give any reasons for it. Do you really expect people to read your review and say, "hmmm, this guy really seams like he has evaluated the product and his reasoning makes a lot of sense. Maybe I should listen to this product myself and see if I can hear what he is talking about." Not the "Audiophile" thing to do Sal. To me, and I am sure I speak for many other music/HT enthusiests when I say...You are an idiot sir.

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B&K 307, Onkyo Integra, Marantz...