Manley Laboratories Stingray Amplifiers

Manley Laboratories Stingray Amplifiers 

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[Oct 18, 2007]
Jeff Harper
AudioPhile

Strength:

CUSTOMER SERVICE ,PREFORMANCE,PRICE AND LOADS OF FUN LISTNING with 2 choices of path Triode at 20watts per side or ultra linier with 40 watts a side.
Room filling,detailed sonics at a very small price along with timeless style and beauty.

Weakness:

not one

First offI would like ti sayI have listened to alot of very high end tube gear.Audio Note ,Audion,Audio Valve ect...Push pull,single ended triode stuff coasting $10,000 and up I don't think I will ever be a 9 watt per brick kinda guy with 110 db speakers that sacrifice bass for a high efficantcy raiting ,as some times I like to rock out and I want to hear kick drums and a real bass line like in tommy the cat by Primus.Not all tube gear can meet this demanding chalange.The stingray plays 100% of what evers on your favorite media with compleate transparintcy.It simply plays everything you throw at it very well! Not just clasical or jazz.And it dose it in unselfishly and in abundance.The first thing you notice iswhen you turn up the volume insterments keep there individual space,sound stage just gets wider and deeper and never becomes a confused concoffany of noise.Never dose one insterment over run another,vocals are clear and strong but never in your face .
Attack and decay is stunning the vibrato of horns and strings raise the hair up on the back of your neck it is so real sounding .When my wife came home from work she said who is playing the gutar in our liveing room ? when she saw the new amp she said I never thought it was the stereo it sounded so real. Thanks Jessie Cook! In triode configuration you might think it is a single ended triode amp the details are that stunning,you can easily pick out the fly poo from the black pepper.You can hear every flaw in recordings in older cd's recorded on outdated dac's you can hear digital hic ups when adding tracks and mixing .Ultalinier configuration at the flip of 2 switches it is more forgiving,a little less anolitical and warmer sounding with a slightly larger presentation.The Stingray is really 2 amps in 1 in more than one way.
Forget tube rolling Eve Anna did it for you ,spending hours she really selected the best current stock for you.I could go on and on about this amp all night ,It is way under priced and there is nothing in its class to compair it to it is the best sounding amp under $10,000 and there is a fun factor here other amps can't match.
These amps come to you after days of break in time and Eve Anna never lets one go out that isen't perfact,how do I know this ? Because she saw a small flaw in the silk screen on one of the words on my amp and stopped my order for a day and picked out another one for me .She sent the imperfact one back to production to make it right,I would have never noticed the small flaw but Eve Anna did and dosen't compramise her quality! LAST,THIS AMP NOT ONLY SOUNDS GREAT AND IS ALL i SAY IT IS BUT IS FUN TOO! ISEN'T THAT WHAT IT SHOULD BE ? FUN?

Customer Service

The best of the best.

Similar Products Used:

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OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
[Jul 03, 2006]
Zkidd
AudioPhile

Strength:

Transparency, PRAT, the ability to be involving and let the music play, and not the "boxes"...Simplicity in design and well engineered

Weakness:

None really, other than some folks might like a remote

For the last 15 years, I have been a "sepratist", that is, I have never owned an integrated amp, and I never was remotely interested in trying one. I was the "piggish" audiophile who believed that separates were the only way to go, and that anything less was "middle fi", and not high end. Well, let us rewind the tape to a few months back when the large powerful monoblock amps and pricey preamp were just not doing it for me anymore. Add to that the fact that the daughter was planning a large wedding, and the money for the high end was just not going to be there for awhile. I was cruising on Audiogon, and saw that Stingray. I am a fan of the EL84 tube, and I was also intrigued by the triode/ UL switch on this piece. I had recently sold the expensive preamp to help finance the wedding,so I had some extra monies to use to purchase this. I did commit the large Audiophile sin in that I purchased without listening, buying purely on recommendations of others I know who have or had the Stingray. I made the purchase from a very nice gentleman off Audiogon, and it was shipped to me well packed.

Okay, sorry about the long story but I wanted everyone to have some background. I was coming from some large 150w (each) monoblock amps to a 25w in triode 50w in ultralinear integrated for gosh sakes! And the preamp section in the Stingray is passive to boot! Oh My Lord! What was I thinking? Could I survive? Well, yes, I could, and have been quite nicely, thank you. This is a MARVELOUS piece of equipment, and it is totally beguiling (in the charming sense of the word). The transparency that the Stingray produces in second to none, and for a small amp with a 50w max output, I get a great sense of bass, soundstage, and dynamics. Yes, there is dynamics! Now, I read one review here where the owner was not too kind to the Stingray. There is no mention as to the speakers that he was using, and too, he did admit it was an early model. EveAnna states in the manual that speakers of relatively high sensitivity are a must, and she is spot on, I have 91db, 4 ohm speakers and I can easlity make my ears bleed, and I am in a room that is 13.5 ft. w by 21 ft. deep and I have 12 foot cathedral ceilings. There is a soundstage that fills this room with ease, and I have DEPTH of soundstage like never before. I have never cranked the volume knob past the 12 o'clock position, so there is plenty left to spare, and this comes from both the triode setting and the U/L as well.

Okay, a few caveats: poor recordings are going to sound poor on the Stingray. It makes no allowances for a cah-cah recording. Feed it a good CD or better yet, some well recorded piece of vinyl, and you, my friend, will be in hog-heaven! And I already mentioned the need for some pretty efficient speakers. But so far, that is the only real "negatives" , if you want to call them that, that I have found. Oh, and no remote so it might mean some additional exercise. But I have found that I rarely need to jump up and change volume.

Okay , let us summarize here...Relatively inexpensive, a switch for triode and U/L, no need to spend a fortune for retubing, a breeze to check and set the bias on the tubes, no need for a separate preamp and hence, more cables and all to mess with the signal, a cool look (IMHO and the spouse's as well), and just darn near the best music I have heard in 15 years! Oh, and let us add that tube rollers need not apply, as EveAnna seems to found the best tubes to use that are still available to the common man, and no need to drop $200 for a pair of exotic 12AT7s, though I guess you could if you wanted to. I never realized the "coloration" I was getting from my other gear, and I am a transparency junkie now. I love listening to all types of music with the Stingray as I can actually understand some lyrics now, I hear crystal like highs, and the bass I get is taught and deep ( it will depend on your speakers however). Add the subwoofer out to your model and there is the full meal deal!

I apologize for the long winded review here. I just wanted folks to know that I am a fan of this piece of equipment, and that I do have some perpective in that I tried, and used, the large power amps for my music reproduction for years, and I find this arrangement to be more refined, and frankly, more "musical". For what it is worth, it is also "cool" to look at the 12 tubes all lit up late at night, especially if you like to listen to msuic in the dark...
Give the Stingray a listen. With good cables, a decent set of efficient speakers (90db or better), this could be a new revelation to you as to how you listen to your music. I know, as it has been to me!

Thanks for your time...

Customer Service

None needed as of yet, but e-mails are answered quickly. The e-mail replies are friendly and informative

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
[Nov 14, 2004]
sbh2t1
AudioPhile

Strength:

Astounding detail, great punch, great potential for tuning with different tubes.

Weakness:

Stock tubes aren't perfect. Change them.

Astounding amplifier, so good I can never go back to solid state. Out of the box, the amp sounded great, with an amazing amount of punch, and a lot of beautiful midrange, but my Proac (Reference 8) mini-monitors revealed a slightly hazy image. To be fair, the Proacs have an amazingly detailed soundstage, and are naturally a bit bass lean, so they tend to like detail and warmth. Things really got incredible when I did some tube switching. I tried a range of tubes, and I made some discoveries. Trying different output tubes (el-84), I found JJ EL84 tubes to be very punchy and more detailed than stock tubes, but a slight overemphasis of both high and low notes left the midrange a bit recessed. I liked the JJ tubes better than stock, and they may be great with some speakers, but they weren't perfect with my system. Things really came to life when I tried the Electro-Harmonix EL-84 tubes. Haze was lifted. The midrange came to life, with detail and accuracy that just astounded me. With these tubes, the Stingray started to sound like a very, very high end amplifier- it has the punch of a good solid state amp, and a level of detail and warmth that makes solid state seem unbearable. It becomes difficult to find any weakness. Switching between different 12at7 input tubes allowed me to fine tune my system. I tried Amperex tubes (good), some RCA black plates (less detailed, less accurate for me) and some Mullard 12at7WA's. The Mullard tubes were the clear winner in my system, with an absolutely beautiful midrange and compelling accuracy. (They are a bit warm- your results may vary, depending on your tastes.) For me, the Mullards brought out warmth that perfectly balances the amps great punch. I think I spent a whopping $100 on the tubes I'm now using, and the Stingray is a different animal. (Sorry) This amp is a bargain, would be a bargain at twice the price. Highly, highly recommended.

Similar Products Used:

Cary tube amps, Parasound Solid State amps, Krell Solid State amps.

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
[Jul 27, 2003]
fingerpickerbob
AudioPhile

Strength:

The seperation on this amp is only limited by the quality of what you hook up to it. With a inexpensive AMC cd player it sounded good. With a Pioneer Elite platter hooked up to a outstanding D/A converter with HDCD is not to be believed. Listen to the Grateful Dead or Joni Mitchell and you will get all the pluses of vinyl without all the minuses. It also would pay to get highly effecient speakers to not have to tax the amp too much.

I bought this amp on ebay from the person who runs the shipping at Manley. It was one of two he was selling and this one was the newer one with the larger power supply the later ones received. I sold a Bryton power amp/ Coda Preamp combo because although High powered solid state power amps have "punch" a piece of solid state gear no matter what price will have what this amp has and that is "magic". I have matched this amp up to a 12 year old pair of Legacy Focus speakers with a PD-65 Pioneer Elite transport going thru a DA-10 Counterpoint D to A converter with a HDCD card. I also have a Sony Sacd player and a inexpensive DVD-Audio player which hooks up nicely. Let me tell you 50 watts per channel is plenty unless you are looking to do some serious headbanging and don't care about your neighbors. The "bloom of the notes on acoustic music is great. If you are a guitar player who is knowledgeable about tubes you will know that the EL-84 is a very musical tube, it is responsible for the sweet Vox tone as well as many others. On jazz this amp is extremely true. The Stingray will make inexpensive SACD/DVD-A players sound as if you have spent thousands on your gear. I play mine along with a old Pioneer intergrated hooked up to a pair of ADC 3 way bookshelf speakers and enjoy many Cd's in 4 channel. The seperation on Dark Side of The Moon and the Steely Dan DVD-A's is enough to make any anal 2 channel purist change their mind. Not only that it is really cool looking! Mine has the mirror top finish with an gold faceplate. There is something magical about having the amp and preamp in one body,eliminating problems between power amp and preamp. If you are looking for a final purchase this is it.

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
[Apr 27, 2003]
BOB HILLS
Casual Listener

Strength:

nice look, enough power for my small room(50 watts),

Weakness:

price is a bit too high for small amp 50 watt.

sound clear ,good for rock ,pop ,fusion jazz and blue. is it ennough for u? my system is manley stringray int amp b&w cdm1 se(i gonna change it soon) musical a3 cdplayer 24 bit nordost blue heaven intercon.. mit2 speakers cable

Similar Products Used:

vtl int amp.

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
4
[Nov 16, 2002]
PMartinez
Audio Enthusiast

Strength:

+ beautiful design - should win awards + Eveanna is a pleasure to work with + Manley even produces the knobs. They're beautifully finished

Weakness:

- sour sounding amp - high harmonic distortion - worst sounding 6BQ5 amp ever - looks like Aprhodite, but sounds like Medusa - anemic bass

I purchased this amp directly from Manley Labs in 1999. On the bright side, Eveanna Manley gave me a money back gurantee. The short of it was that I returned it after two weeks of listening. I should have known something was wrong when it took a long time to deliver. The answer that I was given was that they were 'adjusting the bias'. The problem with this amp was that it sounded as if it was producing sound that was off key. Mozart's Clarinet Concerto had a sound so sour that I winced every time I listened to the long clarinet solo. I replaced the Manley with a Berning EA230 and everything sounded fine with the system. Other users tried replacing the Sovtek 12AXGTs with other brands. I replaced one set, but the difference was not significant, so I returned the unit. Eveanna suggested that I might need a more powerful amp, but the Stingray is 25watts/chan as was the Berning. Note: Mine was an early unit, and this problem may have subsequently been fixed.

Similar Products Used:

Berning EA230, Eico HF-81 (6BQ5 - much better), Dewald (6BQ5), Grommes (6BQ5)

OVERALL
RATING
1
VALUE
RATING
2
[Apr 10, 2002]
audiomage
Audio Enthusiast

Strength:

Accuracy of timbre, lush but not sloppy sound, scary soundstaging and imaging, real bass and drive for a ''50 watt'' integrated. And then there''s that gorgeous styling. Thankfully, it lives up to its looks.

Weakness:

None, unless you wanted a built in phono stage - after hearing it, a wise tradeoff decision. Not an ideal match for a brutal speaker load(e.g. ribbon or electrostatic)and huge room, but otherwise excellent for most speaks.

Embarasses a lot of more expensive equipment I have heard(or even owned). It drove ProAcs new D15''s beautifully, and did not run out of gas. Shorter circuit paths and aesthetics justify the dual input selectors. Tube lushness with near solid state control. I auditioned it for hours, on a wide range of music,and it rocked. I heard it with the stock EL84s, and doubt it needs a tube roll. Other equipment in the chain was an AudioNote cdp & Nordost Solar Wind cable. The sound had no grain, no pain, just magic. Kudos to a great local dealer and maverick manufacturer.

Similar Products Used:

Too many over the years to list.. suffice it to say this gem holds its own with anything near its cost.

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
4
[Feb 26, 2002]
lecartel
Audio Enthusiast

Strength:

Very deep, lean and clean bass Good soundstage Dynamics, smooth sound on voices and transients

Weakness:

None

Audiomat Arpege Reference versus Stingray: the match. A very close tie overall, but the Stingray wins in the bass and soundstage depth departments The match was set at Tahiti Audio Tech, a small hifi showroom, with TEAC transport, an exotic chinese tube DA converter (glowing with differents lights in the dark...), very expensive Siltech G5 (power cable) and G3 (interconnect and HP cables), very big, expensive, efficient and accurate Cabasse Adriatic speakers... Of course, the Stingray was outfitted with tubes from Slovakia (JJ Tesla) and Germany (Valvo NOS), not with the Russian EL 84 M tanks... The sound of both amps was excellent, but in my opinion the Stingray had a small edge on separation of instruments (the soundstage seemed less crowded), and in the deep bass transients department (most noticeable on Gary Peacok''s double bass solos in Keith Jarrett trio "at the blue note") .The bass was very taught, deep, lean and clean on the Stingray, with the high fast transients overtones of the double bass very clearly delineated. I never heard a system sound as close to a real live jazz double bass. In comparison those high pitched transients were lacking with the Audiomat, the double bass sounding more "one note", boomy, and not as "deep down", as if the bass tones completely erased the initial higher pitched attack of the string and the resonance decays of the instrument after the note. This excellent bass transient experience was heard only with the TEAC transport and exotic tube DA converter, not with my own Ah Tjoeb 4000 tubed CD player, which is not as good a transport (but is much cheaper). The "golden ear" of the Tahitian tube sect, owner of the expensive gear above, agreed with me that the Stingray was slightly better overall, but, wow, that was a close match. I was really impressed at the performance of the Stingray with a good transport and the Siltech G3 (interconnect and speakers) and G5 (power supply) cables. The music seems totally free, the dynamics are astounding. When Jack DeJohnette hits that cymbal or snare drum, it does not sound like he is holding back his arm at all ! At the same time the high transients are so clean, fast and with no edginess at all. As for Gary Peacock, his playing seems suddenly more energetic than before: he seems to pinch the strings much faster and harder... Too bad for the owner of the showroom,

Similar Products Used:

Audiomat Arpege Reference

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
[Nov 03, 2001]
Jean Carmet
Audiophile

Strength:

Coherence from top to bottom, presence, clear and vivid midrange, dynamics, taught bass.

Weakness:

Not very good for classical, transparence/definition, soundstage depth, tones not as good as the best tubes, treble not very airy.

A very good little amplifier, I like it despite all the caveats. If is very vivid and coherent, and I could live with it and be happy for a long time if I wasn't an audiophile...
It could be more extended in frequency, more detailled, more...but it is a joy to listen. Highly recommended if you are not a picky folk like me !

Five Stars in his category.

Similar Products Used:

Densen DM10, Magnum Audio IA170, Sphynx project 10, Audio Analogue Maestro&Puccini, Lavardin IS & IT, Air Tight ATM-2, Pass Aleph 0s & 2, Cayin 500, C-J MV60, Etalon SL801, etc. too much to mention them all.

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
[Aug 07, 2001]
Joe Ede
Audio Enthusiast

Strength:

wonderful easy rich sound

Weakness:

none so far

Wonderful product and great service, it makes your whole system come to life..to the point where you might not recongnise your system any more....beware if you hear it...you may never want to listen to anything else again..

Similar Products Used:

Lectron tube amp and preamp, Bw ZZ1 integrated amp

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
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