Manley Laboratories Stingray Amplifiers
Manley Laboratories Stingray Amplifiers
USER REVIEWS
[Oct 18, 2007]
Jeff Harper
AudioPhile
Strength:
CUSTOMER SERVICE ,PREFORMANCE,PRICE AND LOADS OF FUN LISTNING with 2 choices of path Triode at 20watts per side or ultra linier with 40 watts a side.
Weakness:
not one First offI would like ti sayI have listened to alot of very high end tube gear.Audio Note ,Audion,Audio Valve ect...Push pull,single ended triode stuff coasting $10,000 and up I don't think I will ever be a 9 watt per brick kinda guy with 110 db speakers that sacrifice bass for a high efficantcy raiting ,as some times I like to rock out and I want to hear kick drums and a real bass line like in tommy the cat by Primus.Not all tube gear can meet this demanding chalange.The stingray plays 100% of what evers on your favorite media with compleate transparintcy.It simply plays everything you throw at it very well! Not just clasical or jazz.And it dose it in unselfishly and in abundance.The first thing you notice iswhen you turn up the volume insterments keep there individual space,sound stage just gets wider and deeper and never becomes a confused concoffany of noise.Never dose one insterment over run another,vocals are clear and strong but never in your face .
Customer Service The best of the best. Similar Products Used: to menny to list |
[Jul 03, 2006]
Zkidd
AudioPhile
Strength:
Transparency, PRAT, the ability to be involving and let the music play, and not the "boxes"...Simplicity in design and well engineered
Weakness:
None really, other than some folks might like a remote For the last 15 years, I have been a "sepratist", that is, I have never owned an integrated amp, and I never was remotely interested in trying one. I was the "piggish" audiophile who believed that separates were the only way to go, and that anything less was "middle fi", and not high end. Well, let us rewind the tape to a few months back when the large powerful monoblock amps and pricey preamp were just not doing it for me anymore. Add to that the fact that the daughter was planning a large wedding, and the money for the high end was just not going to be there for awhile. I was cruising on Audiogon, and saw that Stingray. I am a fan of the EL84 tube, and I was also intrigued by the triode/ UL switch on this piece. I had recently sold the expensive preamp to help finance the wedding,so I had some extra monies to use to purchase this. I did commit the large Audiophile sin in that I purchased without listening, buying purely on recommendations of others I know who have or had the Stingray. I made the purchase from a very nice gentleman off Audiogon, and it was shipped to me well packed.
Customer Service None needed as of yet, but e-mails are answered quickly. The e-mail replies are friendly and informative |
[Nov 14, 2004]
sbh2t1
AudioPhile
Strength:
Astounding detail, great punch, great potential for tuning with different tubes.
Weakness:
Stock tubes aren't perfect. Change them. Astounding amplifier, so good I can never go back to solid state. Out of the box, the amp sounded great, with an amazing amount of punch, and a lot of beautiful midrange, but my Proac (Reference 8) mini-monitors revealed a slightly hazy image. To be fair, the Proacs have an amazingly detailed soundstage, and are naturally a bit bass lean, so they tend to like detail and warmth. Things really got incredible when I did some tube switching. I tried a range of tubes, and I made some discoveries. Trying different output tubes (el-84), I found JJ EL84 tubes to be very punchy and more detailed than stock tubes, but a slight overemphasis of both high and low notes left the midrange a bit recessed. I liked the JJ tubes better than stock, and they may be great with some speakers, but they weren't perfect with my system. Things really came to life when I tried the Electro-Harmonix EL-84 tubes. Haze was lifted. The midrange came to life, with detail and accuracy that just astounded me. With these tubes, the Stingray started to sound like a very, very high end amplifier- it has the punch of a good solid state amp, and a level of detail and warmth that makes solid state seem unbearable. It becomes difficult to find any weakness. Switching between different 12at7 input tubes allowed me to fine tune my system. I tried Amperex tubes (good), some RCA black plates (less detailed, less accurate for me) and some Mullard 12at7WA's. The Mullard tubes were the clear winner in my system, with an absolutely beautiful midrange and compelling accuracy. (They are a bit warm- your results may vary, depending on your tastes.) For me, the Mullards brought out warmth that perfectly balances the amps great punch. I think I spent a whopping $100 on the tubes I'm now using, and the Stingray is a different animal. (Sorry) This amp is a bargain, would be a bargain at twice the price. Highly, highly recommended. Similar Products Used: Cary tube amps, Parasound Solid State amps, Krell Solid State amps. |
[Jul 27, 2003]
fingerpickerbob
AudioPhile
Strength:
The seperation on this amp is only limited by the quality of what you hook up to it. With a inexpensive AMC cd player it sounded good. With a Pioneer Elite platter hooked up to a outstanding D/A converter with HDCD is not to be believed. Listen to the Grateful Dead or Joni Mitchell and you will get all the pluses of vinyl without all the minuses. It also would pay to get highly effecient speakers to not have to tax the amp too much. I bought this amp on ebay from the person who runs the shipping at Manley. It was one of two he was selling and this one was the newer one with the larger power supply the later ones received. I sold a Bryton power amp/ Coda Preamp combo because although High powered solid state power amps have "punch" a piece of solid state gear no matter what price will have what this amp has and that is "magic". I have matched this amp up to a 12 year old pair of Legacy Focus speakers with a PD-65 Pioneer Elite transport going thru a DA-10 Counterpoint D to A converter with a HDCD card. I also have a Sony Sacd player and a inexpensive DVD-Audio player which hooks up nicely. Let me tell you 50 watts per channel is plenty unless you are looking to do some serious headbanging and don't care about your neighbors. The "bloom of the notes on acoustic music is great. If you are a guitar player who is knowledgeable about tubes you will know that the EL-84 is a very musical tube, it is responsible for the sweet Vox tone as well as many others. On jazz this amp is extremely true. The Stingray will make inexpensive SACD/DVD-A players sound as if you have spent thousands on your gear. I play mine along with a old Pioneer intergrated hooked up to a pair of ADC 3 way bookshelf speakers and enjoy many Cd's in 4 channel. The seperation on Dark Side of The Moon and the Steely Dan DVD-A's is enough to make any anal 2 channel purist change their mind. Not only that it is really cool looking! Mine has the mirror top finish with an gold faceplate. There is something magical about having the amp and preamp in one body,eliminating problems between power amp and preamp. If you are looking for a final purchase this is it. |
[Apr 27, 2003]
BOB HILLS
Casual Listener
Strength:
nice look, enough power for my small room(50 watts),
Weakness:
price is a bit too high for small amp 50 watt. sound clear ,good for rock ,pop ,fusion jazz and blue. is it ennough for u? my system is manley stringray int amp b&w cdm1 se(i gonna change it soon) musical a3 cdplayer 24 bit nordost blue heaven intercon.. mit2 speakers cable Similar Products Used: vtl int amp. |
[Nov 16, 2002]
PMartinez
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
+ beautiful design - should win awards + Eveanna is a pleasure to work with + Manley even produces the knobs. They're beautifully finished
Weakness:
- sour sounding amp - high harmonic distortion - worst sounding 6BQ5 amp ever - looks like Aprhodite, but sounds like Medusa - anemic bass I purchased this amp directly from Manley Labs in 1999. On the bright side, Eveanna Manley gave me a money back gurantee. The short of it was that I returned it after two weeks of listening. I should have known something was wrong when it took a long time to deliver. The answer that I was given was that they were 'adjusting the bias'. The problem with this amp was that it sounded as if it was producing sound that was off key. Mozart's Clarinet Concerto had a sound so sour that I winced every time I listened to the long clarinet solo. I replaced the Manley with a Berning EA230 and everything sounded fine with the system. Other users tried replacing the Sovtek 12AXGTs with other brands. I replaced one set, but the difference was not significant, so I returned the unit. Eveanna suggested that I might need a more powerful amp, but the Stingray is 25watts/chan as was the Berning. Note: Mine was an early unit, and this problem may have subsequently been fixed. Similar Products Used: Berning EA230, Eico HF-81 (6BQ5 - much better), Dewald (6BQ5), Grommes (6BQ5) |
[Apr 10, 2002]
audiomage
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
Accuracy of timbre, lush but not sloppy sound, scary soundstaging and imaging, real bass and drive for a ''50 watt'' integrated. And then there''s that gorgeous styling. Thankfully, it lives up to its looks.
Weakness:
None, unless you wanted a built in phono stage - after hearing it, a wise tradeoff decision. Not an ideal match for a brutal speaker load(e.g. ribbon or electrostatic)and huge room, but otherwise excellent for most speaks. Embarasses a lot of more expensive equipment I have heard(or even owned). It drove ProAcs new D15''s beautifully, and did not run out of gas. Shorter circuit paths and aesthetics justify the dual input selectors. Tube lushness with near solid state control. I auditioned it for hours, on a wide range of music,and it rocked. I heard it with the stock EL84s, and doubt it needs a tube roll. Other equipment in the chain was an AudioNote cdp & Nordost Solar Wind cable. The sound had no grain, no pain, just magic. Kudos to a great local dealer and maverick manufacturer. Similar Products Used: Too many over the years to list.. suffice it to say this gem holds its own with anything near its cost. |
[Feb 26, 2002]
lecartel
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
Very deep, lean and clean bass Good soundstage Dynamics, smooth sound on voices and transients
Weakness:
None Audiomat Arpege Reference versus Stingray: the match. A very close tie overall, but the Stingray wins in the bass and soundstage depth departments The match was set at Tahiti Audio Tech, a small hifi showroom, with TEAC transport, an exotic chinese tube DA converter (glowing with differents lights in the dark...), very expensive Siltech G5 (power cable) and G3 (interconnect and HP cables), very big, expensive, efficient and accurate Cabasse Adriatic speakers... Of course, the Stingray was outfitted with tubes from Slovakia (JJ Tesla) and Germany (Valvo NOS), not with the Russian EL 84 M tanks... The sound of both amps was excellent, but in my opinion the Stingray had a small edge on separation of instruments (the soundstage seemed less crowded), and in the deep bass transients department (most noticeable on Gary Peacok''s double bass solos in Keith Jarrett trio "at the blue note") .The bass was very taught, deep, lean and clean on the Stingray, with the high fast transients overtones of the double bass very clearly delineated. I never heard a system sound as close to a real live jazz double bass. In comparison those high pitched transients were lacking with the Audiomat, the double bass sounding more "one note", boomy, and not as "deep down", as if the bass tones completely erased the initial higher pitched attack of the string and the resonance decays of the instrument after the note. This excellent bass transient experience was heard only with the TEAC transport and exotic tube DA converter, not with my own Ah Tjoeb 4000 tubed CD player, which is not as good a transport (but is much cheaper). The "golden ear" of the Tahitian tube sect, owner of the expensive gear above, agreed with me that the Stingray was slightly better overall, but, wow, that was a close match. I was really impressed at the performance of the Stingray with a good transport and the Siltech G3 (interconnect and speakers) and G5 (power supply) cables. The music seems totally free, the dynamics are astounding. When Jack DeJohnette hits that cymbal or snare drum, it does not sound like he is holding back his arm at all ! At the same time the high transients are so clean, fast and with no edginess at all. As for Gary Peacock, his playing seems suddenly more energetic than before: he seems to pinch the strings much faster and harder... Too bad for the owner of the showroom, Similar Products Used: Audiomat Arpege Reference |
[Nov 03, 2001]
Jean Carmet
Audiophile
Strength:
Coherence from top to bottom, presence, clear and vivid midrange, dynamics, taught bass.
Weakness:
Not very good for classical, transparence/definition, soundstage depth, tones not as good as the best tubes, treble not very airy. A very good little amplifier, I like it despite all the caveats. If is very vivid and coherent, and I could live with it and be happy for a long time if I wasn't an audiophile... Similar Products Used: Densen DM10, Magnum Audio IA170, Sphynx project 10, Audio Analogue Maestro&Puccini, Lavardin IS & IT, Air Tight ATM-2, Pass Aleph 0s & 2, Cayin 500, C-J MV60, Etalon SL801, etc. too much to mention them all. |
[Aug 07, 2001]
Joe Ede
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
wonderful easy rich sound
Weakness:
none so far Wonderful product and great service, it makes your whole system come to life..to the point where you might not recongnise your system any more....beware if you hear it...you may never want to listen to anything else again.. Similar Products Used: Lectron tube amp and preamp, Bw ZZ1 integrated amp |