Dynaco PAS-3 (Vintage) Preamplifiers
Dynaco PAS-3 (Vintage) Preamplifiers
USER REVIEWS
[Aug 04, 2011]
vercingeterix
AudioPhile
I rebuilt two Dynaco PAS preamps with AVA rebuild kits: first, a PAS-2 that I further modified after getting it back from AVA’s free check up. The second time around I rebuilt a PAS-3, with boards supplied by AVA and my own parts, the same that went in the finalized version of the PAS-2. Stereophile reviewed the AVA-rebuild of the Dynaco PAS preamp back in 1988. John Atkinson was mildly positive in his review and recommended the product with a C rating. From the photograph and description, it appears that Frank Van Alstine is still selling the same kit. Maybe a few caps and resistors have changed, but I’d bet that’s about all.
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[Feb 26, 2003]
ejvd
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
Lively presence, very good value in a tube preamp, easy to work on, lots of verve, simple, straightforward design. Schematics and assembly manual readily available on the web. Many available on the web, although their prices have been escalating as the word gets out.
Weakness:
Cosmetics in the older PAS-2s can be funky. Finicky, given the age. Some of the switches are cheesy. I have noticed some crosstalk, if more than one source is on at the same time (e.g. while using the CD source, and the tuner is still on, but not selected). I actually have two of these preamps, both PAS-2s, which are just the same as the vintage PAS-3, but with older, brass faceplate, which I actually like more. Got one that was restored on e-bay for 179, another that was unrestored on e-bay for 65. ( a deal!). The unrestored one has Telefunken tubes, which was a surprise to me, as they weren't mentioned. This preamp is simple, lively, and fun. Excellent sound for the $, excellent introduction to tube pre-amps. Many upgrades are possible, it is easy to work on if you have some soldering skill. Lots of information on the web about these preamps. Matches up well with either a solid state or tube amp, in my experience. I am running my unrestored one with an Adcom GFA-535II, and the restored one is operating with a Dynaco ST-70, that was restored. The midrange, and presence and liveliness is hard to define, but it is much superior to other solid state preamps to which I have compared it (NAD 1020, Hafler DH-101). It can be finicky, but it's old! I'm not sure how the more radical reconstructions (e.g. Van Alstine) effect the sound. I'm also not sure how taking out the tone controls effects the sound, but it is a very simple procedure (On Joe Curcio's web site). Similar Products Used: I have two Dynaco PAS-2s, Dynaco PAT-4 with power supply upgrade, NAD 1020, Hafler DH-101, inoperative Heathkit SP-35. Many integrated tube amps, Fisher, Scott LK-48, Harman Kardon Ballad, Heathkit SA |
[Aug 17, 2002]
Peter Henderson
AudioPhile
Strength:
Tube warmth and naturalness together with peppy dynamics, soundstaging, imaging, pace and musicality.
Weakness:
Somewhat uneven performance: Bottom octaves a little subdued -- think twice before bypassing the tone controls. Tweaky and fussy like an old sports car, but worth the trouble. To max out the design you could spend a couple hundred on replacement parts, or more. What I purchased was actually a PAS2, which has the same circuit as the PAS3 but is a lot cuter looking if you're into art deco et al. I probably overpaid for it but it's hard to find one with a really clean faceplate, which this had. While I knew that David Hafler's PAS design was highly respected in its day, what really convinced me to buy one was a remark by Steve Melkisethian in his Angela Instruments catalog some years back -- that he'd rather listen to a well-serviced PAS than any solid state pre extant! After listening I understand his enthusiasm. The PAS has a distinct personality and despite some rough spots, it is a classy sounding pre that is lively and musical, and its limitations should no more disqualify it than those of a Quad ELS, LS3/5a or triode power amp. While the PAS is a favorite with modifiers, I would hesitate to mess with David Hafler's design -- instead I would focus on upgrading parts and bringing everything to perfect spec -- I'd hate to lose the "PAS sound", as I experience it. I had a lot of trouble getting my PAS up and running. At one point, the dam burst on the volume control and I was treated to instant full blast at 11PM. Anyone buying one of these things should be or have access to someone who can work on it. When things were finally straightened out I played some old lps and CDs, still angry at all the hassle I had put up with, and prepared to dislike it. Listening quickly won me over. The PAS, to my surprise, sounded quite dynamic, with lots of detail, three-dimensionality and atmosphere. Imaging was, frankly, as good as I've heard. There was warmth and liquidity and sheen, yes, but this was no old biddy designed to tame the music's savage breast; instead it sounded lively, fast and funky through the mids and treble. The bass was a little subdued, but, mine being an unmodded unit, I availed myself of the liberty of goosing the bass and treble knobs just a tad and really liked the results. It had the clarity of a modern set together with a certain life to it that solid state often misses. I suspect that even after stuffing it with the best available tubes and caps the PAS would lack the sonic refinement of my new/used c-j PV9, but that's just a conjecture. The PAS is so agreeable to listen to -- if only it had a remote! If you've never owned tubes I suggest you take one for a test drive today! Similar Products Used: Conrad-Johnson PV9, various vintage integrated amps: Fisher X100B, Sherwood |
[Feb 07, 2002]
jesta10
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
awsome value, great warm sound
Weakness:
old, needs cleaning and replacement parts but who cares bout that anyway if your buying a kit! or prebuilt kit like mine I have Magggies driven By 2 Velemen monoblocks. When I first hooked wasn''tbad but then tubes warmed up after a while and what an amazing thing i love the sound mids and highs are clear as anything...I cant wait to replace the caps and clean it up can''t even imagine what it sounds like then Similar Products Used: B&K pt3b |
[May 29, 2000]
A Dana
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
Low Cost, good project for modification
Weakness:
Compressed, rolled-off sound, cheap parts I've used two different non-modified PAS-3 preamps in Similar Products Used: Dynaco PAS-4, Conrad-Johnson PV10 |
[Nov 05, 1999]
A Colin Flood
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
warmth of tube sound, modern looks, classic name, type a volume knob
Weakness:
no tone controls or headphone jack I have a Rotel CD player feeding into a Dynaco Series II Pas 4 vacuum tubed pre-amp to an old 60 pound monster, Class A Pioneer M-22 amp designed to be a reference amp twenty years ago. Similar Products Used: Nad 1020, Fisher, Carver |
[Sep 04, 2001]
Kenneth Vermeirsch
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
price; tweakability; involved sound What can I say? It's a PAS, and it's mine ! |
[May 10, 1999]
John Chleapas
an Audio Enthusiast
I enjoyed mine so much I now have three of them! 2 are Pas 3x, and one is aPas 3. I gave my Dad one Pas 3x as a gift, and he uses it with his Conrad Johnson Premier 4, 100 wpc tube amplifier. His unit is still stock with some upgraded capacitors only to replace the ones that were leaky. His tuner is a Sherwood S-3000V tube tuner in mint shape. The phono section sounds very nice with his B&O 4002 turntable. The sound is very nice listening to the Pas 3x in stock form. The Pas 3x I use was bought modified by David Moffett(sp). It has a Conrad Johnson look a like face plate, and an extra transformer is mounted on the rear of the unit. This one is going to my Dad just as soon as I finish modifying the third one I own. I bought all 3 Joe Curcio upgrade boards for this unit. These Pas 3 preamps are true audio bargains at around $150.00 used on the open market. The sound is to me very open, and detailed. The possibilities are endless to modify and tweak them. Some prefer the Pas 3x as the tone ciurcuit can be bypassed. I have found that a good cleaning of the pots really improved things as the scratchiness was eliminated when turning the knobs. I say for $150.00, or less buy one, or more like I have done! I will rate the modified ones a 5 star rating. Four stars for them stock in good working order. I use my Pas 3x modified unit with my Scott 350 stereo tube tuner, Ariston RD-110 turntable with the soon to be rewired Rega 250 arm. (Go peek at the Origin site for information on modifying the Rega 250 arms!) My amplifier is a Dynaco ST-70 with a new Kennedy driver board. My speakers are Celestion Impact 40's. For a budget system I have to smile when I listen to the "music" I now hear. Scarf up a few Pas 3, or Pas 3x units while they are still a true audiophile bargain! Five stars when modifed. Four stars in stock form! Good quality stereo equipment need not cost always many thousands of dollars. For the financially challenged like myself there is always the vintage tube stereo route to keep me smiling! |
[Jun 09, 2001]
Richard Sherman
Audiophile
Strength:
Classic Design, impeccable and tasteful build. Upgradeable and very stable construction. Amazing presence, it's overall sound quality and finally it's simplicity.
Weakness:
Old components, finicky controls. In their un-restored state could be very problematic for the average music lover. Tweakers paradise. Hard to find original parts. No Headphone Jack. No fuse installed on original models. The PAS-3 is a classic tube preamp from the ideas of David Hafler and a team of dedicated individuals. Similar Products Used: Dynaco PAS-4, McIntosh C-28, Adcom GTP-400, Harman Kardon Citation I, McIntosh C-20 |
[Apr 14, 1999]
Roger W. Stevens WA3FLE
an Audio Enthusiast
The PAS preamp... |