Harman Kardon FL 8450 CD Players
Harman Kardon FL 8450 CD Players
USER REVIEWS
[Jul 05, 2010]
codeyguerra
AudioPhile
Fantastic sound quality!
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[Jan 14, 2000]
Brian
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
After 3 years of light use it still sounds great and works perfectly. Classy looking unit with styling matching current H/K receivers. Easy to program. Discrete circuitry yeilds nice seperation
Weakness:
Wish it had a power button on remote. It can be powered on and off by pluging in the receiver,however. Classy, expensive-looking unit with styling matching current H/K receivers. Convenient features. Easy to program. Discrete circuitry produces very clean sound with excellent stereo separation. I'm no audiophile but I can easily hear the difference between a well recorded CD and one that wasn't (even connected to the bland sounding Pioneer receiver I once used) I read this unit is more reliable than the newer ones sold refirbished on Ubid. I paid over $300 for it new and am still happy. Similar Products Used: Harmon Kardon AVR 75 reciever (very nice) |
[Mar 02, 2000]
Mike
Audiophile
Strength:
Sound
Weakness:
Mine didn't work I purchased a demo model of this player in April of '98 for about $450 Cdn - about 2/3 of the retail price up here. Took it home, set it up (along with new receiver and speakers) and proceeded to notice over the first two weeks a noise coming from the speakers which is best described as a static electric discharge (same sound as if you shock yourself after walking on carpet in dry weather). This made it somewhat dangerous to use this player with the volume turned up too loud, as the receiver was pre-amping / amping the noise. The sound of an electric shock with 100 Watts of power behind it is not a pleasant sound. My salesman suggested I buy an optical cable (which I was going to do anyway, to use the digital input on my receiver), and it fixed the problem.....for a time. When I bought my DVD player, I snarfed the optical cable for that (my receiver only had one optical input - I should have found a coax cable for the DVD player and left the optical on the CD player, but oh well), and the problem came back. Concluded it must be something wrong with this player after changing everything else but the CD player didn't fix the problem, and other devices in the system (DVD player, VCR) didn't exhibit the same behavior. Took it to three shops, but none could find anything wrong with it. Finally, my salesman (great guy!) talked with an HK rep about it, and was able to replace it with a brand-new FL8550 (which I picked up yesterday, almost two years after I initially purchased this unit). Hopefully the new player will not exhibit the problems others have had with that model. I liked the sound the FL8450 produced when it wasn't making weird noises - very clean, clear sound, slightly edgier than my DVD player (nice on some material). Dual differential discrete output is nice. Stylish looks, controls are not bad. Disc selection buttons are poorly placed - under the tray, making it awkward to jump directly to a disc while the tray's open. Trying to re-program tracks after some were already programmed was a nightmare - it was easier to erase the whole program and start over again. Random play was fine. It also lacked 'one-disc' mode - you couldn't just get it to play the disc it was on and stop - unless, of course, you used the fifth disc slot: it would stop after the fifth disc was done. Remote sucked - I hated the feel of it, knobby buttons; I quickly programmed my receiver's learning remote with the codes and put this player's back in the box. Optical-out also produced a clean signal. Disc-changing mechanism was kind of noisy, but I've yet to hear a changer that's particularly quiet. Didn't do a lot of listening around before I bought it and really haven't much after I bought it, either, so I don't have much to compare it to, but I'd stand it up against any Sony / Kenwood / Technics slop any day. Overall rating: for sound quality, five stars; considering the problems I had with it and the interface quirks, three stars. Similar Products Used: Yamaha 5-disc changer |
[Oct 30, 1999]
Danny and Audiophile
Audiophile
Strength:
Had this product for more than 3 years now. This unit is great and is still holding like a H/K should. Unfortunatly, it looks as though H/K is in progressing into a downward spiral in terms of quality and sound. If you can find an 8450 - grab it. By far, this cd player is one of the better ones that H/K has manufactured. Made in China...the only concern that I have. Other than that nice piece of equipment.
Weakness:
MADE IN CHINA. Great piece of equipment. |
[Mar 04, 2000]
Matt Garrett
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
CLEAN sound
Weakness:
Began to cut out when one disk was playing and I'm changing others, but that only happened after a couple years. By far the cleanest, warmest sounding CD player I've ever had. I believe that on a spec sheet, other CD players are better, but that the spec version of 'clean' will give you a cooler, sometimes cold sound. Similar Products Used: Yamaha Changers, Denon Changers |
[Sep 22, 1998]
Charles
an Audio Enthusiast
Paired with other h/k equipment, this cd player sounds excellent. My only complaint is that the tray is over the disc selecting buttons so it is difficult to select which cd you want to hear. Considering its low price and its sound quality, however, its hard to beat! |
[Dec 29, 1997]
Muhammad Lee
an Audiophile
I bought this cd player a year ago after a lot of careful consideration. I paid about $300. I would say that it was more than worth it, my present player was dying on me and I just intended to buy this one as a temporary replacement while I saved the money to purchase something along the lines of a top of the line rotel single disk, or cal audio labs, audio alchemy etc etc. Well almost a year and half later. I can't seem to justify buying a another unit. It did take about a month for it to really shine, but when it did I must say I can't really tel the difference between the rotel and my h/k. If anything, the h/k is a little warmer. Now don't get my wrong, I heard a proceed transport/ dac combination that sounded better but not by much. There was the same amount of detail, but the proceed was a little more defined. It also had a better soundstage. Seemed to envelop you in music. But for $300 you are not I repeat are not going to find a better unit. Most of the units in this price range, are dreck from the sony, jvc, technics camp. When you hear how good the h/k sounds. Your ears will scream in pain hearing the best sony or jvc in this price range. This unit also has a optical out, match it with a good dac, some isolation cones and a good line conditioner and you will have truly pristine sound. I am in process of upgrading my system to a conrad johnson pre-amp and am deceiding between classe and bryston amps. I may get a rotel single disk, mabye but the h/k will always have a place in my system. |
[Dec 29, 1997]
T.M.S.
an Audiophile
Styling: All I have are six words; "Timeless, Understated, State-of-the-Art". |
[Jan 17, 1998]
Jeff
an Audio Enthusiast
Considered buying Marantz 65se, 67se, Parasound cdp1000, NAD 512,514 but in the end got the HK because it offers more overall value than the others. The HK not only sounds good (to my ears, the HK seems to be the most musical out of the bunch) but is of excellent build quality (haven't had any problems with its operation and the chassis feels very sturdy) and it looks great to boot. They retail for $400, but can be had for $250 or so. Needless to say, I'm one happy owner! |
[Dec 31, 1997]
Hsun Lang
an Audiophile
This is one of the best CD Players I have ever heard. The clarity surpasses any unit I have ever heard and I have heard alot of different |