Definitive Technology BP 2002 Floorstanding Speakers

Definitive Technology BP 2002 Floorstanding Speakers 

DESCRIPTION

4 driver bipolar array (2 - 17cm polymer-coned cast-basket bass/midrange drivers and 2 - 26mm dual-chamber transmission line loaded pure aluminum dome high frequency radiators) combined with a fully integrated 125 watt powered 12" loaded subwoofer (including amplifier and electronic crossover)

USER REVIEWS

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[Nov 30, 2000]
Braxton
Audio Enthusiast

Strength:

Very good mid and highs. Bass accurate until volume gets way up.

Weakness:

Subwoofer provides muddy bass at highest levels.
Come up aesthetically short of the some of the other sub/speaker combos I've seen.

Obviously, I purchased these used at a steal. Due to the price, it is hard not to be satisfied with my purchase. In an effort to be objective, I will say that the subs come up short compared to my friends 2000s. Also, the two 250 watt 12" subs fall short of the performance or a good 500 watt sub.

That being said, these are great speakers and the upgrade 2002TLs are even better.

Similar Products Used:

Def. Tech BP-8 (moved to rear)
Def. Tech 2000
Mirage

OVERALL
RATING
4
VALUE
RATING
5
[Jul 09, 2000]
keith martin
Audio Enthusiast

Strength:

Very nice bass

Weakness:

harsh and distorted treble particularly at high volumes

First off, a MAJOR complaint: There will be virtually no help whatsoever coming from the customer service desk if you ever need a question answered. I called 12 times to ask a simple question about the impediances of the drivers to have an external crossover made (the crossovers they come with are only OK) and never got an answer. the last time the guy got huffy and snapped that he was overwhelmed and never, ever even checks his email! Caveat Emptor!

Second of all, the cosmetics are not up to snuff for a high end product. The laquered black wooden tops are slightly warped, the grill cloth feels cheap, the spikes to lift them off the floor need to be fairly hammered in.

The sound? Very good but not great. the much hyped subwoofwer control seems to generate a fuzzy sound if turned up above a neutral setting. the separation and soundstaging appear to be about average. I listen to alot of reggae and dub so I bought these for their bass. The bass is indeed what every one below claims, but unfortunately, there is more to music than just the bass. The treble is very harsh on horns and stringed instrauments at high volumes.

My guess is that they were building them better when they started and now are cutting corners. A recent trip to the hi-fi store revealed even shoddier workmanship than my speakers have.

Rating? I'd give a scant '3' over all, but given how awful the customer service is, I lower that right down to a '1'.

OVERALL
RATING
1
VALUE
RATING
2
[Jan 07, 2001]
Rob
Audio Enthusiast

Strength:

Sound good loud on tracks with lots of bass, ie. rap, r&b
Good for HT or for a party. Ok for the price.

Weakness:

Poor Imaging and Muddy Bass.

I auditioned the B&W 604's, Paradigm Reference studio 100, and the 2002s. The Deftechs sounded good at first but after a while the 2002s started sounding a little muddy, lacking detail. I think having the built in sub is not ideal for
music or even for movies nor do I think that you are getting any real quality in those subs. The B&Ws sounded better to me, tighter more accurate bass and better imaging. The Paradigm studio 100s, to me were clearly the best, imaging and detail were superior.

A note on Definitive Technology also, they exaggerate their
specs greatly. I don't know how they get away with this but I have purchased their products in the past. The BP in-walls
and the BPX surrounds. Good products and well made but I doubt the 5 1/4" woofer in the in-walls go down to 28Hz as
stated in the specs. Their whole marketing strategy is a little bit of a scam.

The deftechs are a pretty versatile speaker and the studio 100s with a $800 sub are definitely more expensive. .
Overall no a bad speaker for the money, would have loved a pair in my college dorm room for parties. Definitely not an accurate speaker though, not refined enough.

Similar Products Used:

B&W 604, Paradigm Reference 100

OVERALL
RATING
2
VALUE
RATING
3
[Feb 23, 2000]
Jason
Audiophile

Strength:

Strong bass for movies; wide, open soundstage, nice looking

Weakness:

Not the best speaker for music, bass can be a bit boomy, can be difficult to place in some rooms

I have to agree with those on this site that feel, for the money, you can obtain a better speaker for music. For movies, however, these speakers are tough to beat.

For music, I found it very distracting that you can not pinpoint the instruments and vocals on the soundstage. To me, it sounds like a pair of speakers that are wired out of phase. Also, the bass became a little "muddy" on tough passages on not only music, but occasionally on movies. My new Klipsch KSW12 subwoofer seems to be considerably more refined in low frequency detail and goes just as low (if not a little lower in my room) than the two 12 inchers in the Definitives (see reviews on this outstanding sub on this website...I will soon be placing one of my own). To the defense of the Definitive's, however, the main advantage of a seperate sub remains the flexibility of room placement to optimize performance without sacraficing the rest of the audio spectrum. High's are pretty refined for a
speaker retailing for 2000.00 a pair. I found the mid range to be average.

Movies are another story all together. The space and less focused sound of these speakers create a huge soundfield for movies. 5.1 surround sounded excellent. The impact (if slightly loose) of the subs could be felt with these speakers and dialog and high frequencies never sounded harsh.

For me, as a music lover, these speakers didn't quite work out for me and I ended up returning them within my 30 day trial. My system is used 70-80% for music and I was able to find better speakers for music (and quite impressive for music I might add) from Magnepan. Combined with my new Klipsch sub, it set me back only 900.00 and the sound is remarkable for both movies and music. For music, the Magnepans can't be beat.

These speakers either work for you, or they don't. If used primarily for home theater, they are impressive. Perhaps in the right room, they would also be as good with music. As with all audio gear, at home audition is the only way to truly see if the equipment is right for you.

Similar Products Used:

No similar products, but a lot of "conventional" speakers

OVERALL
RATING
3
VALUE
RATING
4
[Feb 11, 2000]
Larry
Audio Enthusiast

Strength:

Open soundstage. Two subs are better than one. Good looks and small footprint.

Weakness:

I'm not sure there is one.

I've had these speakers for a while now, and they just continue to please. Out of the whole line (2004, 2000 & 3000), the 2002's are the best musically. I am using Yamaha's 2095 receiver and using a 200-watt amp on the mid/tweeter section. I can control the subs through the LFE with the Yamaha. Imaging is great. My jazz cd's never sounded better. And with HT, I shake the walls and amaze my friends. The 2002 center is a perfect match. If you the best of both worlds, (great sounding music & super home theater), this is it.

Similar Products Used:

NHT, Infinity, Polk, Boston

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
[Aug 11, 1999]
Rob Maatman
an Audio Enthusiast

First let me start out saying that this speaker when combined with good equipment really shines. No I'm not saying that it is the best speaker for music, but when it comes to home theater you can't beat the price! I love my Definitives and I not only have these 2002s but also the 3000TLs. What a setup! It really is overkill but I love how much bass these babies produce. I use to have my system setup with a plain receiver the Harmon Kardon AVR-85, but now that I went to seperates (Lexicon DC-2,Sunfire Theater Grand)the speakers never sounded so sweet! I have listened to the audiophile speakers and sorry they just don't kick like these! Yes I love Bass and I have no problem hearing highs from these speakers, so please don't bother writing reviews when you really don't know what your talking about! Go and give these babies an audition you will not, I repeat you will not be dissapointed. 5 and then some!

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
[Aug 11, 1999]
Wayne

I've had these speakers for about a year and am very please with the sound. Until recently I had them connected to a Kenwood receiver (using preamp outputs) and driven by an adcom 5500. I had the DT's subs connected to the pre-amp full range output on my reciever allowing the sub to x-over the freq. Now I have a Parasound pre-pro and am using the sub out to feed to DT's sub. Sounds much better this way!! I do agree they lack the "monsterous" sound other speakers have when it comes to stereo but they are exceptional in a HT application and are still very good in a stereo. There's just not enough drivers (facing forward that is) to produce the stereo sound some people demand. When shopping, I compared them to Klipsch, Boston Acc., Infinity, and Polk and the DT's won hands down.

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
[Nov 28, 1998]
Rohit Priyadarshi
an Audio Enthusiast

It is almost 6 months since I bought a pair of BP2002. They sound great.I had a little bit of problem initially, as the first pair developed
some strange rumbling noise with in the first 2 weeks, and were replaced
promptly.

The best part of these speakers is seamless merging between mid and lows
as the sub is built right in. You don't have to discover some appropriate
place to hide the subs.

Another important factor, at least for me is even sound pressure distribution
because of dual subs in my room. I had tried a single sub earlier, but did not
like it, as I felt the pressure difference in my ears all the time from
my listening position.

I short, I like them.

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
[Jan 26, 1998]
Clayton Hicks
an Audio Enthusiast

I am thoroughly convinced that anyone who gets "ringing" in their ears or "headaches" from listening to these wonderful speakers has a deep-seated psychosis; or, to agree with the post twice behind this one, turn it down for chrissakes, or sit further back. That or you just don't know the difference between crap and hi-fi. I run these speakers with BAT tube amp and preamp; Rega Planet CD; Kimber interconnects and MIT Terminator Bi-wire; the sound is mouth-watering. If the bass dominates, there is a dial on the back to TURN IT DOWN!! Anyone can effectively equalize their listening room as to the bass on these speakers. Or, you can face the subs inward and thereby lessen the bass in most rooms. If your salesman did not show this to you, then he is a fool and should not be selling the quality of speakers that the 2002's belong to. I praise these speakers for their effortless reproduction of the most demanding recordings. All my Telarc digital classical recordings (specifically Viennese Violin w/ Robert McDuffie reciting Lehar and Vivaldi) have the most awesome imaging and soundstage. On Dvorak's Slavonic Dances, Op. 42 #5, the triagle in the back and to the left of center in the pit comes through clear and gorgeous. This speaker has better sound than speakers that I auditioned that cost almost ten times as much!! Apparently you either did not give this fine product the testing it deserved, or don't know the difference.
Yeah, yeah, all taste about sound is subjective and open to opinion, but some norms apply. To call these speakers a waste and to decry their performance is sheer audiophilic ignorance.
Maybe, as another post said, upgrade the electronics that are running the speakers. Krell, you say? Which one? How powerful? Was it an older model? Was it used? What interconnects were used? What speaker connects? Please lets stop all the unecessary and ignorant posts, please, just because you can't tell what sounds good over what doesn't.
Five stars to this incredible piece of quality equipment.

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
[Jan 27, 1998]
Timothy
an Audio Enthusiast

Put simply, any speaker design that uses defraction based wall reflectioncannot sound musical or accurate, only artificially ambient. The bass
was typical of it's narrow dimensions (a poorly designed cabinet, no
matter how you angle it). Doesn't play to the strengths of the sub-
woofer used, so the bass sounds muffled and gives of a 'wooden' resonance
with every kick drum impact (no matter how you set the volume). Image
becomes distorted, headaches are cause by the difraction based 'echo'
that these bounce off the walls. Disable the wall firing speakers and
you might have something better, but still not worth even $500. I can
find speakers at Best Buy that sound less irritating. If you enjoy
the sound from these, then try the Polk SRT system, which is a far
better design and achieves resutlts that bury this piece of garbage.
Mono-pole speakers will always have an advantage in accuracy, musicality,
and a truer soundstage. Poor design, poor sound; it's that simple,
and yes I've heard them (terrible in all fundemental areas of reproduction
from the bass and up). Can't name one thing I like about them, the best
way to descibe these is two words: EXTREMELY ARTIFICIAL.

Timothy

OVERALL
RATING
1
VALUE
RATING
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