Definitive Technology BP 30 Floorstanding Speakers

Definitive Technology BP 30 Floorstanding Speakers 

DESCRIPTION

Bipolar w/ (4)6-5/8" Soofers and (2)1" Tweeters

USER REVIEWS

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[May 21, 2001]
Jim Roosa
Audio Enthusiast

Strength:

Value. DefTechs largely unsung hero of a speaker, same design as the 2000 and 3000, without the overwhelming powered sub. These BP30s match my RPTV, looks very neat and tidy.

Weakness:

Cant think of one. Just too happy with them.

These deliver the biggest bang for the buck. I have auditioned speakers that cost SO much more. Some things are certainly left up to one's own taste and opinion, and speakers are no exception. I cant make the leap to another speaker that costs twice as much or more when they dont sound that much better (or as good) as the BP30s.

The 6.5 inch driver in this speaker delivers great bass and mid, but it is the tweeter that I really love. The highs are incredible! Some have claimed that they are harsh; I wonder how many have allowed a break-in period.

I have bought four of these speakers for not only music and HT, but to enjoy multichannel sound in the new DVD-audio format. Their full-range capabilities are perfect for this, not to mention the bipolar sound makes it even more enjoyable.

As mentioned above, the powered sub towers DefTech makes might be a little overkill in some rooms - that's what makes all this so difficult; everyone's living/listening room is going to be different- walls, ceilings, furniture. In my 20'x15' area anything more would destroy my windows! I also employ the CLR3000 for center duty, and the PF15TL+ subwoofer. This is IMHO the best possible setup you can get from DefTech for most situations. They make great speakers in other sizes- but that 6.5 driver and that tweeter are spectacular!

Sony STR DB930 AV receiver (dont laugh, it is a darkhorse!)
Pioneer Elite PD-F27 300+1 CD changer
Pioneer Elite DV-38A DVD player
Pioneer Elite PRO 710HD projection monitor receiver
All Monster connects:
XPHP speaker wire to fronts and center,
Superflat to surrounds.


Similar Products Used:

consumer grade stuff no worth mentioning

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
[Jan 16, 2001]
Stephen Smith
Audiophile

Strength:

Unbelievable dynamics,quality,and depth of sound field

Weakness:

None

I have only used these speakers for a week now, but I am already blown away. I am using these for surround speakers. I had AR3,s for surrounds before and they had nowhere near the soundfield that the DefTechs have. The bass from them is pretty amazing as well.
I have a set of Bp2000Tls for the fronts and a CLR3000 for the center. I own a PFtl+ sub and a Velodyne FSR15 combined together on the LFE channel. All channels are
ran Fullrange. It is amazing how awesome Dolby Digital/DTS movies sound now.
DefTechs are awesome speakers. They blow AR,Boston, away.

Happy listening

Similar Products Used:

Acoustic Research AR3,s and AR7,s

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
[Jan 15, 2001]
Aaron
Audiophile

Strength:

Anything and everything an audiophile quality speaker should posess, these do! That sums it up nicely!

Weakness:

Hahahaha, not in this lifetime

Honestly, I have been procrastinating with the review of my new Def Tech system. A good friend of mine, Ray (who also owns Def Techs), keeps asking me when I will post my review so here we go...

In the following order, I purchased the PF15TL+, then the BP30's for Mains. Then yet another pair of the 30's to handle the surround channels and finally the C/L/R 2000 for my center channel.

Easily the best investment I have and will ever make. It's amazing how these really and truly envelop you with the material you listen to. The highs are crisp, pronounced, and after the breaking in was done, they only sounded better.

The mids and lows are matched and neither overpowers the other. And with the help of my new Parasound HCA2205A amp, i can without a doubt say, "These babies shake the walls when needed but also have the ability to whisper to you like no other speaker can".

My Pioneer ELiTE receiver runs them fine but the Parasound brings out the beast in the BP30's. And as for their appearance, people always comment on their looks. They are the perfect blend of style and sound.

The only advice I can give is to audition them with one of your favorite CD's. You'll notice a huge difference immediately. Don't take my word for it, let your own ears be the judge. Bi-polar sound might take getting used to for some but its almost magical when you realize how good they truly sound.

Similar Products Used:

None, not bi-polar atleast. But have always used Higher end JBL.

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
[Jun 11, 2000]
Alex Z......
Audiophile

Strength:

Design, looks, quality of drivers and crossover specs.

Weakness:

Read on

I find myself in a constant mode of wondering what shall I get next for my audio gear. Bryston amp comes to mind..

About five years ago, I was going through the motions - I simply could not get a Celestion center channel to sit on top of my 53" Sony. Sure, Celestion made a center with polycarb. tweeters (the kind I feel you use to control pets). I used an upright, matching metal dome tweetered, Celestion speaker (which I had on hand). The mellow awesome sound of Celestions, the oldest British speaker company, which is also responsible for the best in guitar amp arena for over 50 years, was something to be proud of. However, as most high-end speakers, they were not designed to handle tons of power - a home theater requirement. That center was also finished in walnut. Looked funny on black/grey TV, although a bookshelf type of speaker, i.e. vertical speaker arrangement has the best dispersion.

So, I got bored, went to the local audio shop, and picked-up a pair of BP20 for $400.00. You know, how could you pass on a deal like that!. Great bass, awesome sound. Dillema again - there is no way I wanted a matching cloth tweeter in the center - somewhat dull. Know it for sure, since I installed a $45,000 sound system for the client and did not care for the sound of that driver. Learning at someone else's mistake, I purchased CLR1000 and BPX's, and as you know, it utilizes a brigther metal dome tweeter... You guessed it, now I had to get rid of BP20's and get BP30's to match metal domes. Did it, done that. Also picked-up a Powerfield 1500 (gloss cap sub). Moved Celestion setup into my master bedroom.

Do BP30's sound good? YES!. It took me a while to get used to bipolar sound, constantly going back and forth in and out of my bedroom for listening comparisions.
Would I give Def Techs Away? Yes, only for B&W 802's - Nautilus design has tons of visual appeal. Would I get a sound worth twice the cost - not in my opinion. I'd rather get a projector, amp, etc. I kinda quit being anal about precise imaging stuff. My reasoning?
LIVE:
If precision speakers put you in the middle of stage - are you a member of the band, to be on it? If you are, get yourself a pair of headphones, because that what they often use on stage. Besides, do bands use only two precisely placed speakers on stage pointed toward you?
RECORDED:
Are we interested in listening to music as played or recording engineer's talented mastery of tweaking? I think you get where I'm headed. I love good recordings, but to sit in the centerline of two speakers for that 'airy precise focused imaged feeling? For what? "a precise placement of instruments" as critics say. WOW, I get very upset and cheated, when the trombones shift to the left a bit, from their usual place, that I know by heart so well! Ruins my whole day!! It's so important to track Chuck B.'s movements left and right with his guitar - orgasmic!
Besides, isn't it a world of multichannel sound distribution and diffusion?

BP30: great speakers, good precision, focus and imaging. Awesome for the home theater. Good design, great drivers.
Gigantic BP3000's wouldn't stand a chance to similarly priced (or even less) system consisting of BP30's and two Sunfire subs. Besides, the tweeters on those large all-in-one side-sub firing monsters are too high, above ear level.

Last time I talked to Sandy, Def Tech inventor, I forgot to ask him this question, which you might find familiar to some of your thoughts:

If there is so much bitc*ing going on about bipolar sound for music, why not split the crossovers and put a double-pole or a bigger switch to turn the rear drivers off - for those, who do not like rear reflections, did not put acoustic foam on the walls behind to deaden them, or simply want to experiment. The cost of this shall remain small, and it would be a great marketing tool, although it might defy everything Sandy stands for. But wait a minute, why not, Def Tech does make direct radiating speakers also..

Four stars for not adding the switch feature. Once I check the crossover design and it can be rewired - 5 stars!

Similar Products Used:

Def Tech BP20
Otherwise, various Celestions, B&W.

OVERALL
RATING
4
VALUE
RATING
5
[Jan 03, 2000]
Julian Data
Audiophile

Strength:

Very warm and robust with the lows. Very surprised of what four 6.5" drivers can do.

Weakness:

End caps can break off yet easily corrected by using dowels. When playing at full song, the woofer can be a tad loose.

I received my BP30s after a long decision of which speaker upgrade path I should take. I have been upgraded several times last year. I started with my first speaker system, the Polk RM6500. This was a very nice overall entry system. But ears wanted more, several months later I sold the Polks and ventured to the M&K 750 THX System. The M&K 750 system was an exceptional system yet flawed in when playing certain types of music as it was a bit bright the subwoofer was the weakest link in this overall package. As a matter of fact, I think they (M&K) should dump that sub from their line entirely as you pay too much for a sub that lacked features in the same price range.

Having as done as much research as I can, I finally decided to venture onwards to the DefTechs, I looked at the following model first, the Pro Tower 400. Yet, it never happened as starting thinking far into the future and decided to go several steps past the 400. Since I plan on moving my new mains towards the rear at a later date. So the following choices were the BP2000TL or the BP30. The BP2000TL quickly fell out of the picture when a sudden event arose so I then turned to DefTech's comparable speaker the BP30. - Since the BP30 is basically the same layout as the BP2000TL less the powered sub.

After finally receiving the BP30s (and the CLR 2000) my first impressions were: they are heavy (80lbs ea), end caps are installed flimsy and they are tall! I proceeded to connect the speaker to "current" configuration since more likely it will change in the next coming months. - I really think this hobby is worse car racing or being a geek at a terminal! -

First impression for the first several hours of power up, it's too bright! I looked for my break-in thrashing cds and began to play the speakers continuously for 72 hours with various volume levels. My speaker connections were done in conjumction with the jumper bar. After the break-in, I soon noticed that the speakers began to have a warm sound to them. It was very pleasing and quite amazing to hear so much bass out of the 6.5" drivers as they literally can be felt rumbling the floor! Heck, those drivers definitely surpasses the sub in the Polk 6500 system! And remember they are not powered by onboard amps! What's impressive about these lil drivers is that they can lower than some of the powered subs that are available - meaning those low dollar ones - My girlfriend and I practically thought, "could this be a bit too much?"

Then I proceed to biwire the speakers. Now there is a difference in biwiring these speakers from my experience. The gain was a more robust, articulating and defining warm sound. It's like the speakers picked up a couple of dB. There's certainly a bit more clarity to the speakers. I have also installed the spikes that came with the speakers and the woofers seemed to have tightened up a bit. So now I wonder how much better can these speakers get?

Since these speakers are designed as Bipolars, placement and careful planning are a value necessity! From my experience in the past, I know the exact measurements of my HT room. I carefully placed the speakers in the proper placement after some trial and error settings. Then I toed them in to hit the desired sitting postion. The backspacing of the speakers from the closeset corner was approximately 7 5/16". This setting produced the best soundstage, mids, and believing it or not imaging. The soundstage is very amazing as the speakers really disappear.

So in closing, the BP30s are an excellent deal if you can find the dealer willing to work with you. Their performance is completely amazing!

Similar Products Used:

M&K 750 LCR

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
[Mar 30, 1999]
George Burkhard
an Audiophile

These speakers are simply awesome! I was auditioning many different speakers in the $1000-$2000 price range, and these were by far the best. They actually sounded BETTER than a pair of $4000 Martin Logans I compared side by side.
If you think they would sound like the 10s, you're in for a BIG surprise. I listened to the 10s, thinking that the 30s would sound the same (because the retailer didn't have them in stock at the time), and next to the 30s, they sound horrible. (honestly, I think the 8s sound better too, but anyway...). The audition of the 10s made me leary about the 30s, but when I heard, them, I was sold. They are PHENOMINAL.

Also, they have GREAT bass for speakers without a sub (or any large drivers) the 6.5" woofers can handle lows to 18Hz and all the midrange information too. They aren't all about bass, though. the mids and especially the highs sound great also.

BOTTOM LINE: at $1400 a pair, you can't get better speakers. (I got them for $1175 from audio etc, though. -The best store I've seen).

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
[Mar 20, 1999]
BrianV
an Audio Enthusiast

I got a pair of BP30s almost 2 months now. I have to say the more I listen, the better it sounds. They did not sound as nice out of the box, but after
the initial break in period, they sound so great.

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
[Oct 30, 1997]
Doug W. Hobbs
an Audio Enthusiast

The BP30's are good speakers. I own a pair and love them for both home theater (where they perform superbly) and music. A pair of BP30's and a high quality subwoofer will out perform the BP2000 for less money. As far as the standard criticisms against Definitive Technology speakers:
It's true that the bipolar sound appeals to some more than others. Imaging does indeed suffer, but on the other hand you gain good sound for a much wider range of listening positions.

The bass is not as tight as I'd ultimately like, but they do go down surprisingly deep. They go down deeper than most other speakers in their price range, while still maintaining a full sounding midrange. Because of the bass output, I have been able to put off buying a sub for a year without missing it too much for many movies.

It's also true that they can be a touch bright in the high end. The specifics of your room and amp will make the difference between clean and detailed, and sharp and annoying.

I don't have the luxury of being able to sit in one special place to listen to music. I usually have a kid jumping on me or playing in the background. I find that the BP30's work well at diffusing the sound so that I can enjoy music from anywhere, and as my attention moves from the various goings on in the family room back to the music, I'm always impressed with how warm and detailed the music sounds.

OVERALL
RATING
4
VALUE
RATING
[Aug 12, 2000]
Chuck Giera
Audio Enthusiast

Strength:

Clarity and Crispness, Outstanding bass response, Bi-Polar design, Large Soundfield

Weakness:

None

I have listened to many speakers, noted above, over the last 3 or 4 months but, nothing sounds as good to me as the BP30s. I have owned them now for over a month. They didn't sound as good out of the box as other reviewers had mentioned. Now after a month of listening to music and movies they are sounding the way I hoped they would. The bass is very, very good. The midrange and hi-end are clear and crisp with pretty good imaging. I am hearing things in my CDs that I never heard before and goes for DVDs too. The soundfield is very large and covers my listening room well. I really like the bi-polar sound. I am using a Marantz SR7000 receiver to power my BP30s. To fill in the very bottom I am using a M&K MX 100 subwoofer. This combination is outstanding for both music and HT. These are the best speakers I have ever owned and hope to keep them for many year to come.

Similar Products Used:

Boston VR950, Klipsch RF3, Klipsch kg4.5, DCM Timeframe 600, plus Paradigm, B&W, NHT, Phase Tech, Infinity & Polk

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
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