Dynaudio Confidence 5 Floorstanding Speakers
Dynaudio Confidence 5 Floorstanding Speakers
USER REVIEWS
[Aug 29, 2019]
ArneD
Strength:
Hello Dynaudio Confidence 5 fans- it is me again. I managed to get even more out of my C5 by getting a new BHK250 amp and a P15 powerplant from PS Audio, while also playing yet again with the speaker placement in my room. Speaker placement is the most critical element with the C5, especially if you want to hear more bass. I got lucky enough to get a hold of someone at Dynaudio who knows the C5 weaknesses and strength. He said the best success chance to find the right placement in the room is to start with a 5 by 8 ratio, with placing them in the corners of your room. So, start for example with 50cm distance to the side walls versus 80 cm from the rear wall, measuring from the front baffle ( metal plate) of the speakers vertical center axis. You will immediately hear more bass frequency detail. From that position try moving them in 1cm increments from the walls in the 5 to 8 ratio until you are happy. The purpose is to avoid standing base frequency elimination, since the bass moves in waves. Also try moving your listening position to the sweet spot where you will hear more bass. The right placement is crucial for the Confidence 5. Good luck and enjoy Weakness:
very finicky when it comes to the ideal placement in the room. If you don't place them correctly, they will sound very bass shy. They will reveal the weakness of poor audio recordings without any mercy. But, they will also reveal the quality and holographic imaging of a really good recording. Price Paid: $5500
Purchased: Used
Model Year: 2002
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[Aug 07, 2019]
Arcsaber
Strength:
W.O.W. Having played with hi-end earphone and headphones, I eventually got tired of them and started playing with speakers since 2018. Despite having a pair of proper speakers and a 200wpc class A/AB hybrid amp since 15 years old, I seldom listen to my speaker system. I started a new life in Western Australia since 2018, and met several good music lovers here. I wouldn't call them Audiophiles, since they never BS about how sweet their speakers reproduce female voice, you get the picture. Through them and their equipment at home I got to know how good speakers MIGHT sound like. But I don't rely on that. I mostly rely on the 15 years experience of Violin learning. And thankfully, my mother - who despite knowing nothing about classical music, took me to hundreds of the best orchestra concerts during my childhood. This experience came in handy in my journey playing with speakers later in time. You know the kind of music hifi dealers like to use when demonstrating their equipment? Or the type of music your "Audiophile" friends play when you go listen to the system they proudly own? Jazz trio, sweet female vocal songs...you get the picture. These music just don't work. Not at all. Research shows the percentage of frequency response each music genres cover (between 20hz-20khz). Jazz trio won the last place, revealing less than 50% of the frequency range. Typical female vocal test songs don't do much better. If you play some symphony music, which covers about 85%, then we are talking. While Metal/Rock music sometimes cover more (90%), its usually difficult to tell if the various effect the recording mixer put on the electrical guitar is being reproduced properly.After all, who the hell knows how the mixing plugin they use SHOULD sound like? But if I play symphony music, I instantly know how REAL a pair of speakers sound like. Pair this experience with good measuring equipments and knowledge, you could say goodbye to the whole Audiopool group and start REALLY enjoying good music. This is how I came across C5. The day I saw it appears on a local Hifi forum, i immediately sent PM to the owner and I was at his place 30 mins after he post it. 15mins after that I am the new owner. Despite his place was like a mess in terms of acoustic environment, I knew how REAL each orchestral instrument sound, through the T330D and M560D drivers. Nothing at this price could compare (got it 2nd hand for 4800AUD, about 3300USD). You might get heavier bass, Flatter fre Weakness:
Bass is shy, no excuse. In my room the bass is -3db at 47hz already. ITS NOT BECAUSE OF THE AMPS! DONT WASTE MONEY ON MORE EXPENSIVE AMPS! Nothing could add more bass to these speakers except EQ. Just enjoy the good airy beautiful mid and treble. Bass is tight but shy, take it as it is unless you are willing to try EQ (not necessarily a bad thing), but mind you, you need about 10db boost at 25hz to make the bass equal to flat response, which might incur lots of distortion. Price Paid: 4800AUD
Purchased: Used
Model Year: 2002
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[Feb 14, 2018]
ArneD
Strength:
I left a review for the Dynaudio Confidence 5 here before a couple of years ago...but really felt the need to update my review and comments. As you can tell I kept these speakers all these years and kept on upgrading all other components, always with the intention to get the best out of this old diva. Finally! I found the right amp that makes them sing so beautifully, realistic, authentic and 3 dimensional with bass extension I was not even aware the C 5 was capable of- fantastic! The perfect amplifier for the Confidence 5 is the PS Audio BHK 250. I am using the Mystere CA21 tube preamp with it. Source is the PS Audio PWD mk2, Nordost Tyr XLR interconnects, wireworld eclipse 7 speaker cables and silver eclipse 7 powercords. I am sure upgrading my PWD mk2 to the latest Directstream DAC would get me even a bit better performance and have no doubt that the PS Audio BHK preamp will be an even better match than the Mystere CA21, but for now I am more than satisfied. This old Diva is still capable to play in the top liga, it just needs the right equipment to shine. Well, long story short, if you own a pair of Dynaudio Confidence 5 and think they are shy in the bass or do not play to the fullest of their potential, replace your amplifier- at $7500 USD the PS Audio BHK 250 is certainly not a cheap amplifier, but for what it sounds like and with what authority it drives the Dynaudio C5, it is worth every penny. My 18 year old Diva is singing like never before thanks to this phenomenal amplifier- Thank you PS Audio! Weakness:
Hard to please Diva! Demands the best quality components you can afford-especially the right amplifier combo is crucial- I tried a lot of different amps over the years- the BHK 250 works perfectly with them. Price Paid: 5500
Purchased: Used
Model Year: 2008
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[Oct 10, 2014]
Amir Arama
AudioPhile
There is No other loudspeakers that have the Mid Hi sound like the C5 , even Dyanudio C4 & Temptation (30,000$ ) , that my Friends have , not have this mid hi sound , way ? because the ESOTAR soft dome Midrange , that only the C5 & Consequence Model have .
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[Aug 30, 2014]
Arnold
AudioPhile
These speakers reveal everything once you have found the tight equipment to make them sing to the best of their ability. I tried many amplifiers and many sources. Each time I dared to invest into my system it came down to replacing either the speakers or the amplifier, but something always kept me from selling these beautiful tall standing speakers. Boy am I glad I kept upgrading the equipment and cables rather than getting rid of the Dynaudios. The best results so far I achieved with the NewClear NC1000l dual mono amp as the powerhouse in combination with a PS Audio PWD MK2 DAC as the source. Interconnects are Nordost TYR XLR, speaker cables are Wireworld Eclipse 6, and power cords are Pangea AC-9se, both components fed via a powerplant premier. This set up sounds fantastic, extremely clear, spacious and dynamic, with lots of top and bottom end. The amplifier however did not sound loud enough for classical music being fed directly from the DAC with the variable output volume control, so I decided to add a preamp to the system. After some research and talking to the NewClear distributor I decided on a Mystere CA21 tube preamp. Once it had some time to burn in I gave it a critical listening session. No doubt this preamp was the missing element. I am in audiophile heaven and blown away by the sound quality of this set up and how it changed the character of the dynaudio confidence 5 from clean, revealing dynamic, but a bit anemic in the low freqencies requiring back up from my Dynaudio 250 Sub, to being stunningly dynamic, extremely revealing, natural sounding and so big in soundstage with a fantastic bottom extension. Needless to say they no longer require subwoofer support. I am simply amazed how good these 14 years old speakers sound when paired with the right gear. Highly recommend them, they are a keeper!
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[Jan 24, 2010]
Dassenator
AudioPhile
This is one of the most sensitive speakers in regards to placement and room acoustic that I have ever used! It also needs the right equipment to really sing. But once you got it all set up right, you will be rewarded and happy for a very long time.
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[Jan 02, 2008]
ArneD
AudioPhile
Strength:
Beautiful speakers with a fantastic sounding mid range.
Weakness:
Hard to find the right equipment in order to drive the C5 to its full potential.
I always wanted the C5 from Dynaudio since I saw them for the first time on the IFA in Berlin 1999. I had a pair of Dynaudio Xennon 3/75 since 1989 and absolutely loved them, which made me curious about the flagship speaker ( I dislike the looks of the Consequence!). Over the years I paired my Xennons with many amplifers and cables continuously improving their performance. By the time I moved from Germany to the U.S. I had a T+A P2000 AC with a T+A A2000 AC, using a T+A DVD 1210 R as my audio source. The sound was beautiful to my ears, but once I had moved the sound in the U.S. was not the same anymore, maybe because of the 110V on 60hz versus the ideal of 220v on 50Hz for the T+A components. So I sold them except for the DVD player and replaced everything with a Krell HTS and a Krell KAV 500. These components almost killed my speakers. Being unhappy again with the lost audiophile pleasure of the past, I decided it was time to pair the high end Krell components with adequate speakers and finally bought my dream speakers-the C5's. The midrange was a dream right away, but compared to my Xennon 3's the mighty ESOTAR tweeter sounded really lame. I am missing the high frequency spectrum of my beloved Xennons. The base is punchy and hard, but the overall sound is comparably cold and sterile. I am frustrated once more, I know these speakers should be perfect and can only asume that Krell components are not the right partner for the C5 if you are looking for the typical warm Dynaudio sound. I will not sell the speakers because I am glad I finally found a nice pair in palisander rosewood, but my quest for the right components seems to continue. If anybody has any tips in regards to the right amplification with native 110Volt equipment, please let me know. Similar Products Used: Dynaudio Xennon 3/75, Audience 122, Audience 62, Krell HTS, Krell KAV 500, T+A A 2000 AC, T+A P 2000 AC, T+A DVD 1210R, Straight Wire Rhapsody S speaker cables, Wireworld silver Eclipse XLR's |
[Aug 04, 2007]
Frank
AudioPhile
Strength:
Tonalität, Bühnenabbildung, Neutralität, Auflösung.
Weakness:
Braucht sehr gute Elektronik und ordentlich Verstärker-Power. Was für ein gigantisch guter Lautsprecher! ich hatte jahrelang eine Contour 3.3 und war immer zufrieden bis auf eine Überhöhung im oberen Bassbereich, die nicht zu korrigieren war. Nach einer Umstellung meiner Elektronik von einem Accuphase E-406 auf eine Vor/End-Kombi mit C-2400 und P-450 wagte ich den Umstieg auf die Confidence 5 und habe es nie bereut! Im direkten Vergleich wirkt die Contour 3.3 zunächst dynamischer, was sich aber bald als Vordergründigkeit entpuppt. Die C5 ist weitaus differenzierter und offenbart einen Detailreichtum und eine Bühnenabbildung, die zu Tränen rühren. Die Klangfarben sind absolut authentisch (als Musikkritiker weiß ich, wie Instrumente klingen), die Contour wirkt im Vergleich fast etwas geschönt. Der Bass reicht sehr tief herunter, klingt straff und profund, aber niemals aufgebläht und der Frequenzgang ist, im Vergleich zur 3.3 absolut linear. Es gibt Boxen, die "größer" klingen, aber kaum authentischer. Ich habe viel gehört (B&W, Thiel, Martin Logan etc.) aber die C5 ist der beste Lautsprecher, den ich bisher gehört habe. Verarbeitung und Optik sind ein Traum. Fortschritte in der Elektronik reicht die C5 sofort durch. Letzte Woche ersetzte ich meine P-450 durch eine P-650, eine wirklich "große" Endstufe, und Auflösung, Bühne, Dynamik nahmen nochmal deutlich zu. Wer über sehr gute Elektronik verfügt, sollte sich die C5 unbedingt anhören! Similar Products Used: Dynaudio Contour 3.3
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[Nov 08, 2003]
Alex Liu
Casual Listener
Strength:
1. Disclose every detail with ease. 2. Excellent spatial sensation. 3. Very easy position. 4. Elegant shape of course.
Weakness:
1. Not just need a very good power amplifier but also a very good "high gain" pre-amplifier. 2. Expensive in Taiwan. Do not consider these speakers if you just want to buy a fancy decoration. Do not buy it if you could not stand classical music more than 60 min. Do not listen to it if you just need a background music for dinner. In my limited experience, the Confidence 5 may be the best sounding speaker in the world. It will bring you a whole new experinece to enjoy the music from vocal, jazz, chamber music to the fff symphony. But I could not sure whether it will fit special effect or rock music. It will bring you the most elegant string vibrations in the air. It will make you believe that you are in a live concert or a live play in a pub. It will force you to listen all your CD/SACD collections again for all the detail you had lost before. But the drawback is it need high quality equipments (not always high price) to drive, from CD player/DAC to power amplifier. It may be the ultimate speakers that worth to own but be careful if you hear a flat and dead sound from these speakers when your audio gears or the environment not totally compatible with it. My concurrent equipments: Power treatment: PS P500 Source: Krell SACD standard Pre-amp: Sphinx project II MKII, Transcendent Ground Grid and Audio-King Model-9 (Taiwan's local company http://home.kimo.com.tw/audiokin/audioking.htm) Power-amp: Bryston 7BSST and Theta Dreadnaught II Cables: VDH, Acapella, Furutech, IeGo, Bona, ........... Similar Products Used: B&W M801 MKII................. |
[Aug 10, 2003]
john
AudioPhile
Strength:
Build Quality A string sound is best quality. Tight Fast Bass
Weakness:
Low Sensative These are the best speakers I've heard for two channel use in the my home. Similar Products Used: ProAc Response 3 |