Eminent Technology LFT-VIIIa Di-Polar Ribbon Towers - Pair Floorstanding Speakers
Eminent Technology LFT-VIIIa Di-Polar Ribbon Towers - Pair Floorstanding Speakers
USER REVIEWS
[Dec 14, 2010]
hofbat
Audio Enthusiast
I recently purchased a demo set of LFT-8Bs, hoping they would finally satisy my taste for 2 channel listening in our dedicated audio room. Previously, I have used Klipsch Fortes, Innersound Electrostats, Magnepan 1.6s, Magnepan 3As, and most recently Emerald Physics 2.0s. Each of these speakers had strengths and weaknesses.
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[May 06, 2008]
windman
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
Quality of construction is a definite strength; fully spiked down with a set of Sound Anchor Stands underneath there is over 70 lbs of very solid solidly placed planar that is completely vibration free; very important considering how vibration can fatigue other planar speakers I have encountered.
Weakness:
Some of the strengths from a performance standpoint may be a weakness from an ownership perspective. At over 4’ tall and 70lbs in weight the LFT 8’s may not work for some rooms.
For the purposes of this summary I will assume that you are already both familiar with, and are a fan of the unique Planar/ESL “sound” It is important when considering any Planar or ESL to ensure that your musical tastes are compatible with the sound characteristics of this exceptional speaker design; as some musical preferences are better served by conventional “dynamic” box style speakers.
Customer Service Have had no need for any customer service! The one and only email I ever fired off to Eminent Technology was answered by the owner (Bruce) within two hours on a weekend! That was amazing. These speakers are built to last and include a very detailed manual. They also have a good web site that provides information for adding upgraded components and even how to install features as well. These are a nice problem free product. Similar Products Used: Too much gear to list. Suffice to say I am an Audio addict. |
[Feb 07, 2007]
stade66
AudioPhile
Strength:
Overal balance, uniform sound, lack of colorations... Excellent speed and attack.
Weakness:
You will still need some power but not as inefficient as you would expect due to being planar. If you need bass slam you need something good above 250WPC SS or biamp with above 100 WPC SS on bass+Tubes on panels.
I did not really plan to post my review here, but when I noticed Tucker's review below, could not resist. Not everyone will like certain speakers including VIIIA-s, but his "review" is full of so much nonsense that is simply laughable.
Similar Products Used: Other equipment tested used at home:
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[Dec 05, 2006]
Peterpioli
AudioPhile
Strength:
Midrange detail and open soundstage
Weakness:
None for a speaker in this price range For $1699.00 these speakers are impossible to beat. Often compared to speakers that cost 3 times as much. For a great review, go to the Home Entertainment Reviewer website: http://homeentertainmentreviewer.com/eminenttechnology.html
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[May 29, 2006]
douglas
AudioPhile
Strength:
Amazing extension, coherrance, imaging, detail, punch, fun to look at.
Weakness:
ugly to lok at! not enough bass sometimes (can't have it all), could extend a bit higher - but still a marvelous sound! First off I am also wondering what happened to the review I posted on these 3 years back???? It remained fo a couple of years and now it's gone. Makes me question the intergrety of this reiew site.
Similar Products Used: Acoustat M3, Acoustat 3300, Martin Logan, KEF, Energy Di Pole APS 5+2s, |
[Dec 15, 2005]
armyscout42
AudioPhile
Strength:
Strength, wide soundstage, 3 dimensionality, live sound, awesome midrange and voice quality as if the person is right there and the glass is shattering in front of you. Very detailed with right components and tweaks!
Weakness:
Too heavy and possibly they could have placed a larger woofer, like at least a 10 inch, but generally an unbeatable sound. Like all the positive reviews and C.E.S. reviews of this loudspeaker, I agree with the majority. The high end person denouncing this speakers irregardless of his 30 yrs experience, and I have over 25 yrs including as a former high end audio/video installer, does not know where he speaks and lacks knowledge of acoustical engineering. For him to claim he knows more than audio engineers like bruce thigpen is appalling. These LFT 8A'S are a wonder to hear. You cannot beat the the live sound for it's price. when coupled with dakiom feedback stablizers and acoustic research tds enhancers or a carver preamp with sonic holography, these speakers not only sing, it is about as real as it can get. Crystal clear highs, excellent midrange, and nice tight bass, with subs it's even better. For those thinking of purchasing this awesome speaker, don't listen t any of the negative reports by the self proclaimed expert who have earwax and don't let their high end talk fool you either. This LFT 8A pound per pound is one of the best planars out there better than magnepan and what is so big about the overpriced quads? Who would you listen, a digruntled customer who is unknowledgeable or the far more qualified engineer who designed this marvel? and backed up by many legitimate owners and reviewers of this well made loudspeaker. This is the best loudspeaker I owned, only my ACOUSTAT SPECTRA 33 only surpasses it. It blows away my other planars away like magnepans. I'm not big fan of quads, so I like these better. Cannot match even with speakers costing thousands more. Similar Products Used: magnepan smg-c, .05, mglrs-1, srslabs klayman signature, OHM. haven't matched it with my acoustat flagship spectra 33 |
[Nov 24, 2005]
Chris Tucker
AudioPhile
Strength:
You wont need a treble control, the high frequency roll off is built in ? Imaging was decent, some transparency. Tames bright recordings. I thought they looked cool
Weakness:
Un Godly inefficient, and dynamically limited too. Just dont like to play loud. Woofer bottomed out way too often. Unable to move much air in bass. Needed close wall placement in my room to keep from sounding thin, and this ruined the imaging! Had a silvery, zingy coloration on some material. Very rolled off highs with no air up top. Very dull, uninvolving sound, totally devoid of PRAT. Never made me tap my toes, or get up and "conduct". Sounded very strained as volume increased, and I could hear them compress. The LFT 8a is a planar magnetic/hybrid speaker speaker. It uses an 8 inch sealed woofer crossing over to a planar magnetic midrange tweeter array. The midrange ribbons are called upon to cover a very wide range. Presumably, this is to keep the crossover artifacts out of the midrange, albeit at the expense of increased distortion. Assembly was easily handled by a fellow audiophile, and I. We had em up and running within an hour. The first thing we noticed, compared to my Magnepan MG3A's, and B&W 801's, was the lack of efficiency. These suckers flat shut off a Moscode 600! After my friend left, I put on some more dynamic material with bass, and the little 8 inch woofers bottomed out frequently! I played with them for about two more weeks, then sold them. They were too inefficient and dynamically limited for my room. I dont think they are awful, but certainly not in the same league as the MG3A's. Yes, they have their moments, and they are a very forgiving speaker due to their rolled off voicing. The 8 inch woofer goes deep, but so what ? Why go down to 20 hz if you cant move much air? That is too bright in my opinion. Really, I dont understand what all the fuss is about with these speakers. The imaging was pretty good. The high end was really rolled off, even in the high setting. Male voice was a real problem in my room. The placement for best imaging left male voices sounding thin, and when i moved em closer to the rear wall to help out the puny 8 inch woofer, the soundstage collapsed. In desperation, I pulled out my big 500wpc monoblocks, since the wonderful Moscode 600 kept shutting down due to their unusual power demands. The monoblocks are over 500 watts rms into 8 ohms, and the Eminence activated their clipping indicators far too often. I have no place in my system for a power hungry, and dynamically limited speaker. If i wanted that, i would still own Quad 63's. The quads smoke these speakers. Female voice was pretty well done. These are not rock speakers, or big orchestral either. they are at their best on chamber music, soft Jazz, etc. Bruce Thigpen was a great guy, and we both agreed that they would work out for me. I have a large room, but several speakers have worked in this room. The Eminence were not one of them. I would caution anyone that has a medium to large room to not buy them, or you will be sorry. Perhaps, in a small room, you could live with their dynamic limitations, but why ? Quads will destroy them in a small room, and so will several other speakers. I just cannot believe all the good reviews on these speakers. I think Bruce Thigpen neds to re think this design, and i told him so. I think he needs to go to better magnets for more efficiency, and to not try and take a puny 8 inch woofer down to 20 hz. That, in my opinion, is an exercise in futility. He has sacrificed bass extension for efficiency, a stupid thing in my opinion. After all, why go down to 20 hz if you cant pressurize a decent sized room ? This design has much promise, and I consider Bruce one of our hobbies truly great inventive minds. But, as is, I cannot recommend this speaker to anyone except a person in a small room. And even then, they are up against Quads and other better speakers. I posted this review on Audio Asylum, and took much heat for it. It was suggested to me that perhaps I received a "bad" pair ? I sold them to Doug Schroeder, who used them as a second pair to "stack" with his original pair. Doug never said anything to me about them being a "bad" pair, but then turned around and sold them on AudioGon. It must be pointed out that stacking a pair of these isn't a good idea in my opinion. While they will play louder when stacked, the speaker then turns into a big comb filter! This is because the speaker frames make it impossible to place the drivers right next to one another to avoid horizontal comb filtering effects! The designer of these speakers makes a big deal about their presumed ability to "pass a square wave". If they really will "pass a square wave", and IF that is musically important, then why does he sell a second pair to customers to "stack", knowing full well what sounds arriving from separate sources, and the resultant interference patterns, will do to a square wave ? I must also point out, that in the issue of fairness, I emailed Bruce Thigpen several times to give him a "second chance" to send me out another pair. I even offered to purchase the second pair, if they sounded better then the first. He did NOT even return any of my several emails! My best friend owns VMPS RM 40 speakers, and they use an older version of the LFT8A driver. Both he, and I, really wanted to like these speakers. To say we were disappointed is putting it mildly. One would think that the designer, Bruce Thigpen, would jump at the chance for a re review ? Similar Products Used: Magnepan MG3A, B&W Matrix 801 series 3, Martin Logan Aerius, Von Schweikert VR4Jr, Quad 63's, Acoustat 1+1's, Celestion SL600, Infinity Prelude PFR's,etc, etc. 30 plus year Audiophile here, I have owned it all. |
[May 24, 2005]
douglas_schroeder
AudioPhile
Strength:
Everything
Weakness:
Sonically, nothing. Stands need to be replaced with Sound Anchors. Don't know what happened to the other 15 perfect reviews for this speaker- one was mine. I'm now running twin pairs of LFT-8A's as mains. It's FABULOUS! Power, precision, great imaging, huge soundstage, etc. etc. Phenomenal speaker too good for the price. Similar Products Used: Vandersteen 2c, magnepan 1.6 |
[Sep 01, 2002]
bcollan
AudioPhile
Strength:
Think Magnepan, but with much better dynamics, speed and sense of rhythm. These guys will play well softly and loudly in a small-moderate room.
Weakness:
They need a lot of juice, 200+ wpc makes them happy. I use a Parasound 2200 MKII, a Stereophile class B Solid State amp available cheaply on the used market, and it makes them sing! Eminent Technologies upgraded the woofer and crossover in the LFT-VIII in 1997 and renamed the product LFT-VIIIa. The LFT-VIII was previously a Stereophile class C speaker, and imho, whould have been reclassified as a class B if Bruce Thigpen had resubmitted the upgraded version. The wonderfully dynamic, transparent, natural and open mids and highs now are better mated to a cone woofer capable of credible lows into the 30's. If you like the sound of Maggies, but long for better dynamics and faster transients, these are for you. Similar Products Used: Maggies, specifically MG-2, MG-2.7QR |
[Jul 12, 2002]
art brett
AudioPhile
Strength:
image scale/tranparent mids/
Weakness:
none in this price range one of the best. lets you see into the music. emotional envolment must be present for a loudspeaker to be outstanding. i am a dealer Similar Products Used: sound labs magnapan monsoon |