Newform Research R630 Floorstanding Speakers
Newform Research R630 Floorstanding Speakers
USER REVIEWS
[Jan 11, 2017]
Tran sister
AudioPhile
After 8 month of critical listening i can confirm there is some serious flaws in the midrange and upper range as previously posted.Great look always been a fan of the ribbon style at first view they look like a speaker designed for jazz or acoustic type recordings being lower range is covered by a Scan Speak 7 inch midbass driver but not true as there is noticeable distortion in almost every jazz recording especially in vocals mid range horns as well sax piano so jazz speaker is out of the question probably best used as rock or fast playing music as distortion is less noticeable.
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[Sep 08, 2010]
tomeh2
Audio Enthusiast
Go these second hand and what a deal. Great imaging, great dynamics. Very fast and another beautiful ribbon from Newform Research. I have been running them with a little HLLY90 integrated and using a simple Sony DVD player in a medium sized room. Last night I did an A-B comparison for my friend who thought her "little" system was good enough for her and now I don't think I'll get my these back. I read all of the previous reviews before posting here and I find it hard to believe the previous poster doesn't have something drastically wrong with his electronics side?? The only reason that the overall rating isn't 5 stars is that I am fortunately the owner of Newform Research Linesource reference and Linesource monitors. In this category of sub $3,000.00, floor-standers, I can't imagine a better value. |
[Jul 29, 2005]
ojg
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
fast treble, tight bass
Weakness:
treble distortion, ribbon-mid/bass integration The reviews of the Newform Research speakers here are always glowing, and for good reason. They are, at first listening, very good speakers. The need for a critical and objective evaluation is highly overdue. Because no speaker is perfect, and the NFRs are no exception, it’s necessary to clearly identify their plusses and minuses. I find myself terribly torn over these speakers. Their strong points are quite strong--—their weaknesses so very disappointing. They are not worth twice their price. I’ve heard speakers for less that are as good or better, and speakers for twice that beat them hands down. The Newform ribbons are fast, detailed, and produce a large soundstage, both tall and wide. This alone will spoil anyone who has heard them or anything similar in character such as electrostatics, planar-magnetics, or Heil AMTs. The transients are very good as well as the dynamics. Spoken voices are distinct and easily understood. The wide dispersion of the ribbons provides a broad listening area. Imaging is good. The mid/bass is tight. The bass extension, though dropping off rapidly below 50hz, is well defined, but they do need a good subwoofer to complete the low end. In these areas the NFR 630s excel. Their strengths certainly deserve 4 stars. The ribbons, however, have a serious Achilles’ Heel. Nowhere has this been mentioned except for one review I stumbled across doing a web search, http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_4_1/newform.html. There is a clearly audible distortion problem primarily in the 1000-1500 hz range. This is obviously heard with a sine wave (between 800 hz – 4000 hz) and with a 500-2K white noise signal starting at a sound pressure level as low as 70 db. It occurs in all the NFR ribbons I’ve listened to including 3 of the 8" and 3 of the 30", but is not consistent from one ribbon to the next. Some produce the distortion at lower levels, and some it’s more or less audible. It appears to be inherent in the design. (I’ve also heard a similar issue with Martin Logan electrostatics, but to a far lesser degree.) Pressing on the frame around the ribbons can increase or decrease the ‘ringing,’ but never eliminates it. With music, it’s less audible, yet that depends on other factors. Busy music with many instruments playing, such as full orchestra or large jazz ensemble, will often cover it. Exposed passages with few voices, acoustic music, or soloists, will allow it to be prominently audible. It’s particularly noticeable on solo piano and vibraphone, and other instruments that play in the 1-1.5k range, such as flute, clarinet, and soprano sax. It also seems to require somewhat higher SPLs to be audible with music, 80 db or better; however, it does not have to be loud for it to occur. I’ve even noticed it at relatively low volume. Other problems I’ve noticed are in the mid/bass cabinet. One of my 630s will buzz in a narrow frequency range, around 300 hz. Squeezing the sides of the cabinet up by the mid/bass driver will stop the buzz. Again, this is only audible in exposed passages and indicates a lack of quality control in the cabinet. Another reviewer had alignment problems with the screws between the foot-board and the cabinet; so did I. These sloppy construction and manufacturing problems are inexcusable with speakers in this price range, and indicate a lack of attention to details. Also, at times, the transition between the mid/bass to the ribbons is audible as a musical line of an individual instrument runs from its lower register to the upper register going through the crossover and its sound likewise runs up from the mid/bass to the ribbon. It’s a weird effect. Imaging is somewhat unstable at times—which may be attributable to the integration between the mid/bass and ribbon. After two years of listening to the R630s and several months auditioning other speakers, they still stand out from the crowd in their price range in many respects. I’ve auditioning Magnepan, Martin Logan, Thiel, and Piega in my search for a speaker that is fast, detailed, and above all, clean. In this search, I realize how well the overall design of the Newforms are. Newforms are energetic, if not overtly forward, but just when they are really showing their stuff, as with simple acoustic music, this is exactly when their flaws are most exposed and intolerable, especially the ‘ringing.’ The NFRs leave me very disappointed. NFRs could be great speakers and a great value. As they are, all things considered, they only deserve a 3 star rating. For anyone thinking of buying them, you should be well advised. I’m replacing mine because I can no longer tolerate the distortion. |
[Jan 27, 2005]
Stliong
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
transparency, openness, imaging. Realism comes to mind. It's just so pristine clean to the ears.
Weakness:
Lower extension but unless you're a picky listener or have a large room you probably don't need one. That's for the R645 anyway. There is also only one cabinet finish to choose. Need more colors. Crossover can probably be improved to provide more linear response but I'm no engineer. Even after the recent major price change, these speakers are still what could be the very best things on the market. 5 out of 5 without reservation. I have not had a guest or an audiophile who doesnt fall in love with the sound. Heck, if I would have to relocate to another continent, I'd haul these over other belongings. For many people these would probably be the last set of speakers they own. Similar Products Used: Most of the highest most expensive brands out there. Though moving to digital everything. |
[Dec 09, 2002]
Jashu
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
horizontal dispersion is unbelievable
Weakness:
for someone might be shape, for me they just gain the respect The most difficult part was the blind direct purchase. Thanks to the other review writers which eased my decision. From that point forward it was just great. After 3rd day 1. break in - Mids and Bass. after 3 weeks 2. break in - deep Bass Similar Products Used: for this price - nothing to compare with |
[Dec 27, 2000]
Matt
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
wonderful sound
Weakness:
external wiring from cabinet to ribbon I just wanted to support the other great reviews for this fine speaker. Nothing I have heard compares to the spacious, omni-directional sound of these ribbons. Great compnay, greta speaker, great service. You really can't lose with Newform Research. Similar Products Used: various |
[Mar 16, 2000]
Darren Schmidt
Audiophile
Strength:
Ribbon tweeter, great mid/bass driver.
Weakness:
A wee bit ugly... OK different. I went through the stores and listened to quite a few speakers about 6 months ago. I was finding out that if you've got approximately $2.5K Canadian to spend you can't get a REALLY GOOD speaker with adequate bass. However, for this price, you can get a great stand-mounted speaker, ProAc and Focus make great sounding speakers in this area. Similar Products Used: Mirage M5si, Martin Logan, ProAc 1sc, Focus Audio 68s, Totem Model Ones, etc... |
[Jan 16, 2000]
Pete
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
Smooth Highs, Great detail
Weakness:
Thin sound, Bottoms out I owned these speakers for 6 months and had to sell them. They sounded wonderful with classical and jazz but with rock...forget it. You cannot crank them because they continously bottom out. They also have an irritatingly thin sound that ate at my nerves. The ribbons are exceptionally smooth and detailed and I miss that. I wish John Meyer would design a speaker that has some meat to it so that I can enjoy my Mahavishnu Orchestra bootlegs. If he could do it for $1500 I would try them again. Maybe that's the R830s...I don't know. Those ribbons sure were nice though. The Paradigms can't get to that level even though I like them better for all-round listening. The Newforms are not an all-round speaker unfortunatley, and I like to listen to anything depending on my mood. Similar Products Used: Paradigm Studio 80's |
[Aug 21, 2000]
Don
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
Transparent, 3-D soundstage, excellent dynamics for a planar
Weakness:
WAP(wife acceptance factor) I must state that I have always loved ribbons, from the first time I heard a pair of custom Gold Ribbon speakers back in the early 80's I've been hooked. While ribbons are not for everyone, the Newform type of ribbon driver is almost an ideal choice. With an informed buying decision most people will find it very hard to beat the value-performance combination the R30 presents. |
[Dec 29, 2000]
Gary Huckabay
Audiophile
Strength:
Breadth and Depth of imaging; customer service; build quality
Weakness:
If you're taller than 5'6", you'll need the 645s to critically listen while standing -- no biggie. This is the best speaker I have ever heard. I've spent considerably more in the past, and tried a number of configurations, but I will never need to look for another set of speakers. (Well, I might get an additional set of 645s in the future, but that's it.) Similar Products Used: Monitor Audio Studio 20SEs, Sonus Faber, Wilsons, Apogee, Acoustat, Precise 10s, B&W |