Pinnacle Classic Gold Towers Floorstanding Speakers
Pinnacle Classic Gold Towers Floorstanding Speakers
[Sep 07, 1998]
Chris Saulino
an Audio Enthusiast
I owned these speakers for about three and a half months before I finnaly got rid of them. Anyway in a nut shell I hate these speakers.... They are a design flaw that makes them unlistenable. They are BRIGHT!! They HURT! I don't know how many differnent combinations I tried of speaker placement, spending hours trying to set the toe in just right and trying to take the bright out of these puppies, but damn they are so bright that after a few minutes of listening to them they begin to hurt my ears. They do have a nice soundstage and the bass is deep and tight. For home theater I guess these speakers would be great but even than I had suffered listener fatigue after 5 minutes. I don't like to give up so I tried high quality speaker wire by Tara Labs and also some of their interconnects, because they have such a warm qaulity and could soften the blow.. NO WAY!! These speakers are BRIGHT.... Don't buy them... BIG MISTAKE... I even borrowed my freinds Comrade Johnson Tube amp to warm em up and nope they are still the brightest speaker I have ever heard.... Why do you think you can get them at half price. That Stereo Review article should have never been.. Julian Hersch must have been payed off or just failed to mention how bright they are... They will trick you because when you first hear them you say to yourself, damn that's a nice speaker and it sounds real good and you look at the price and your sold... Take em home set them up and put them through their paces and after twenty minutes your ears are giving out. For the first twenty your loving the soundstage, stereo imaging and the deep base, than your hearing craps out and your ears says I can't take it anymore turn it off!! So that's it... The build quality is ok but I've heard stories about the glue joints falling apart and different things happening to em so I say don't buy em... Why do you think they are selling for such deep discounts.... They are not hifi quality speakers. Look at were they are sold. No real hifi dealer will sell em. There bright and that's it.. You can't listen to em. I know I will get slammed on this but I owned em and I to thought they sounded incredible in the store but take them home listen to them for about a half and hour at a good volumeand you will see what I'm talking about.... STAY AWAY... THEY WILL HURT YOUR HEARING... WHY do you think Pinnacle is trying to rid themselfs of these things.... Think about. Don't sell them at a loss like I had to do... I have listened to so many speakers and these are the brightes speakers I have ever heard... |
[Oct 02, 1998]
Jason Ressler
an Audiophile
Hmm, I find it hard to believe that someone who can mis-spell Conrad/Johnson can be truly considered an authority on the subject of High Fidelity, however, I do take exception to Chris' insinuation that Pinnacle's will damage your hearing. How loud were you listening to these speakers? It stands to reason that if one plays any pair of speakers loud enough one can damage his hearing, but in my experience, these speakers are exceptionally smooth at most volume levels. I have owned my pair for almost a year and a half and have no problem recommending them to friends. However, they are not for everybody, some people do not like metal tweeters, and find them bright or brash, and others do not care for deep bass output. I have found my speakers sound excellent using amps from AMC(tubes), H/K, NAD, Carver, B&K, and yes even an old 30WPC Conrad Johnson. I wonder, perhaps it was Chris' choice of music combined with an extreme volume level, that should have pushed him towards a different pair of speakers. |
[Sep 11, 1998]
GDS
an Audiophile
For those who think the Pinnacle Classic Gold speakers sound bright, read this.I own the Pinnacle Aerogels which is their flagship model above the Towers. |
[Sep 10, 1998]
COLIN EZROW
an Audio Enthusiast
I PURCHASED A PAIR OF "CLASSIC GOLD TOWERS" IN JUNE OF 97' DIRECT FROM THE COMPANY WITHOUT ANY HASSLES. THEY ARRIVED PROMPTLY AND AT A GREAT DISCOUNT. AFTER SETTING UP THE SPEAKERS( 3' FROM THE REAR WALL, 3.5' FROM THE SIDE WALL |
[Sep 10, 1998]
Roger W.Stevens WA3FLE
an Audio Enthusiast
Well, it would be nice to see email addresses from some of these real positive rebuttals, but I was in the dealer demo room when (I'm sure it was) Chris originally brought in his Classic Gold Towers and I can tell you , it was not room modes (those are primarily low frequencies) or high-end rolloff or emphasis, but Mid-Range Brightness that made these things impossible to tame or listen to. I wrote this up a while back but don't see it here--perhaps it's under some other similar sounding Pinacle speaker category in the Reviews list. |
[Mar 13, 2001]
Steve
Audiophile
Update for those interested in bi-amping. I initially had the CGT's bi-wired to 2 bridged amps; I decided because the efficiency was so high, I'd split the amps and use one for bass, one for mid/high @ 215 watts rms each. This enhanced detail and imaging further, and encourage you to try it if you have 2 identical amps. It specifically produces finer detail in the mid/high range, as the amp dedicated to this area doesn't have to labor to produce bass. |
[Mar 05, 2001]
Terry
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
very efficient; very nice low end; mids pretty good
Weakness:
can be exceedingly and relentlessly bright and fatiguing I have to agree with other reviewers re. brightness. Harsh, piercing, metallic-sounding high end that didn't get any tamer after months of listening (it's not my electronics, as I've had numerous other speakers hooked up to them without this problem). Mids and low end are quite nice. Tip: these spekers use a Vifa metal dome tweeter. I recently replaced them with some Vifa cloth domes of the same specifications and also put in a 1 ohm resistor between the crossover and tweeter in each speaker and the sound is greatly improved. Highs are smoother and MUCH less fatiguing. I can now live very happily with these. Similar Products Used: B&W DM604; various Infinity |
[Feb 18, 2001]
Randy
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
Price, Good Bass and crisp highs
Weakness:
Finish on edges on top slightly discolored These speakers have a list price of $1100. I got them at OnSale.com for $398 with no shipping charges. They are the best speakers I have ever bought in that price range. They are extremely efficient. I do not find the highs burning my ears like some other reviewers have written. I find them crisp, with a great kick in the bass. The build quality is not the best, but then again you have to consider the price (a little furniture polish goes a long way to making them look great). They do not compare to my Paradigm Studio 80's but my 80's are not worth 4 times the price of these. Overall, I am very satisfied with these speakers. If I could, I would give them a 10 for value. Similar Products Used: Paradigm Studio 80s |
[Jan 16, 2001]
Tom
Casual Listener
Strength:
sound quality & price
Weakness:
none I decided to upgrade my system about a month ago. I got a pair of Pinnacle CGT for $398 (shipping included from the holiday special) from egghead.com and Pinnacle WC center (Christmas present). I also replaced my Sony receiver with the Yamaha HTR-5250 for $320 (special discount from a friend working at Best Buy). This is without a doubt the best $700 I have ever spent in my life! Similar Products Used: Infinity RS5, Bose |
[Apr 12, 2000]
Jeff
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
PRICE/VALUE!! Tight bass, deep soundstage, solid construction, bi-wireable.
Weakness:
Spartan appearance, brighter than average, bass could be deeper. I have owned my pair of Pinnacles for about four months now and they sound better and better each day. "Break-In" is for real and these speakers need to spend some type on the job before they start sounding magical. When I listened to my albums through them for the first time, the music sounded kinda flat and restrained with no soundstage and anemic bass. As advised, I gave the speakers a couple of weeks of constant work. I pumped up the bass on my preamp equalizer to really get the woofers moving. Soon enough, the soundstage began to open up and I could get nearly the same response as before with no equalization. My source is a mere Toshiba SD-2109 used as a transport with the digital coax out fed to a Sony EP9ES preamp. My amplifier is an Audiosource AmpThree bi-wired to the Pinnacles. I could swear that the sound is continually improving, especially in the area of soundstage. When properly positioned, the golds project an incredibly deep soundstage with proper instrument placement. And that is in a puny 12X15 room with no carpeting. I can't wait to hear em' in a larger, more accoustically solid room. I admit they are a little bright, but for the price that you can get them for ($400 for a brand new PAIR!), this is a minor gripe. I think my Radioshack speaker cables and interconnects have a lot to do with that as well. My next purchase will definitely be a pair of MIT Terminator 4 bi-wires. This should eliminate some of the brightness and open up the soundstage even more! Pinnacle has great customer service from what I hear, and they definitely know how to build a great pair of speakers for next to nothing. Bi-wireable/bi-ampable, 3 tuned diaduct bass ports, heavy solid brass feet etc. etc. All I can say is that with a proper album these speakers will definitely sound "live". Check out any Led Zeppelin remaster from the boxed set. I have NEVER heard drums sound so real and convincing outside of a concert. It is like there is real air around John Bonham as he drums about 15 feet away within a realistically deep and wide soundstage. I also recommend listening to any symphonic album by the Chesky label. Detail and dynamics are amazing. My only gripe is that while the bass is tight and hits hard, these speakers don't seem to play as deep as claimed by the frequency range. They have already improved in this respect so I wouldn't be surprised if they are hitting much deeper by the end of the year. The brightness isn't as big of a problem as some reviewers here would lead you to believe. It's funny how there are a lot of multiple reviews by naysayers of these speakers. I think the average would be a lot higher if this was regulated. At this price, pick up a pair before they disappear! |