Thiel CS3.6 Floorstanding Speakers
Thiel CS3.6 Floorstanding Speakers
USER REVIEWS
[Oct 06, 2008]
Dan S
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
Great imaging, clearest, yet smoothest tweeter/highs, acurate and strong midrange, smooth bass. An excellent overall speaker, enjoyable to spend hours listening too. Quality construction, and great company service.
Weakness:
Power hungery, you should use atleast 200w per channel or more. They are not a "Loud speaker". When listening to them, you will not want to have conversations They play very loud, and sound great soft. But not the speaker to have a "Frat" party with. I purchased the 3.6's after owning a pair of Thiel 2.0, Knowing how much I loved the smaller Thiel's I hoped I would like the upgrade. I was not dissapointed. I loved the speakers from the moment I first played them. I have owned them for atleast 10 years, and used them with many differant systems, from Haffler, Dynaco, Adcome, Denon, and now McIntosh. The speakers are power hogs. Running B&K 200 watt Mono amps was adaquate, but just barely. I presently am using a pair of McIntosh MC 1201 (1200w each), and they sound awsome. The soundstage and imaging is like nothing I have heard before. Thiel's tweeter and midrange speakers are great. The woofer is smooth and even. I use a subwoofer with the system, and it seems to help alot. I have used the speakers in "HOME THEATER' applications, and they were quite "IINADAQUATE" for this application. The speakers are a comfortable speaker listen too, and do not fatique you. I usually find myself closing my eyes to reduce visual distraction, and end up listening to music long than I had planned. When I first got my MC 1201's, I tried to use the speakers as rock and roll loud speakers, I immediatly smoked (litrally) both tweeters and midrange speakers. Thiels service was grreat, rebuilding the driviers, and returning them to me in less than a week
Customer Service Superb. It could not be better or faster. Slightly costly, but you get what you pay for Similar Products Used: I also own the Thiel CS 2.0 and the 1.2 |
[Nov 22, 2006]
Michael Farmer
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
Incredible warmth and balance, when properly matched with an adequate amplifier and transport
Weakness:
Requires a strong amplifier I've read all reviews of the 3.6 and have found many consistencies...Be sure to match your system well!
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[Dec 01, 2005]
Tommy121
AudioPhile
Strength:
1. Imagery - width and depth excellent 2. Reproduction - never fatigued listening 3. Midband superb
Weakness:
1. Need a huge amp, possibly even bigger than my 80 lb lump. 2. Need careful pairing (as I'm finding out) and care to sound their best in a certain system. When these speakers arrived I was a little astounded at the size of the boxes; shipping from the US to the UK was $350 so I guess I should have expected something out of the ordinary... These speakers are simply massive (107 lb each) - I bought them having tried the (much smaller) Thiel 1.6 and from the reviews scattered across the net about the 3.6. Overall I am very happy with them; reproduction is excellent, soundstage is very good. They do need a huge amp though; my Musical Fidelity Nu Vista is 275 wpc and I'm getting over half power to make them sing properly. I also think this isn't quite the right amp (or else cables/cd player aren't quite batting quite right) because the bass slam of the speakers is relatively subdued, at least at lower levels. At higher levels with a bass heavy song they do light up though - I'm sure this is a product of the rest of the system rather than these speakers. I am very impressed with this product; I could have gone to sevenoaks and bought a much worse set of speakers for much more:) It is though going to take time and effort to sort the system to be 100%. All good fun. At least I can only see the system getting better rather than being at its limits.... Similar Products Used: Infinity SM112's (bass heavy perhaps) Thiel 1.6 ES |
[Oct 08, 2004]
jonbee
AudioPhile
Strength:
Coherent, detailed, natural and smooth; powerful, detailed bass. Image as well as the best standmount monitors, but play loudly w/ deep bass as well.
Weakness:
Need a good sized room and high current amp; not small. Finishes' color seems to fade. After 100+ pairs of quality speakers I've owned in 36 years (including many 'stats, ribbons, horns, maggies, etc.) these are the speakers that do the most for me. Wide range, detailed, dynamic, ultra-natural and smooth, they are a delight everytime I listen. Deep, powerful and superbly articulated bass is perfectly balanced with the mids and smooth highs in a totally coherent and convincing manner. Huge soundstage. Thiel speakers require an amp that can run easily with 2-3 ohm loads and these need a good deal of space; without it they will sound very bad with too much bass and shrill sound. They are a terrific bargain in the used market; if you have the amp and space for them there's no better high end bargain, IMO. Similar Products Used: Apogee, VMPS ribbons. Merlin TSM and VSM speakers; Quad and Infinity 'stats, several Maggies, lots more. |
[Sep 17, 2002]
lee201
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
Bass response detail and clarity
Weakness:
requires high end components As I have been in this hobby just a little more then a year now I have wasted a lot of money on inferior products. This purchase was not one of them. These speakers reveal what is behind them and follow the rule of GIGO (garbage in, garbage out) to the max. Hook these babies up to consumer grade audio equipment and crappy cables and you now have two giant transistor radio speakers in your listening room. On the other hand, power them with a krell amp, classe pre-amp, kimber kables, and a decent cd player, you now have nirvana. The unfortunate side is the cost of this level of equipment. I would say if you are not prepared to spend $10,000 (all used equipment including speakers) for a system built around these speakers don't even bother with them. If you do have the cash then these speakers will be hard to beat. Previous reviews mentioned these speakers sounding extremely bright. That is a function of the amp not the speakers. These speakers can be bought for a great price but the investment of high end equipment makes them as a whole, quite expensive. Similar Products Used: thiel 2.3 |
[Nov 17, 1997]
James
an Audiophile
Thiel 3.6 speakers - If you are ready to work hard the Thiel 3.6 is a superb speaker. It is so honest it can drive you nuts. One must have plenty of power (no less than 200 w/ch), and superb components up and down the system. With these in place, you receive fantastic transparency, superb imaging, and an honest rendering of the musical source. Superb cabinetry (I had mine custom made at the factory to match our living room furniture), and excellent customer assistance. My system includes: c-j Premier 14 preamp, c-j MF-200 amp, Linn TT (all the mods), Muse 2 DAC, Sonic Frontiers transport, API Power Wedge line conditioner, Goertz & MIT interconnects. If you want the truth, buy them. |
[Feb 21, 1997]
Kjell Klarin
an Audiophile
The Thiel cs 3,6 is one of few speakers as sound NEUTRAL!You hear the real sound and not the kabinett resonances. |
[Mar 24, 2001]
KEN MARTIN
Audiophile
Strength:
REFERENCE BY WHICH ALL OTHERS ARE MEASURED
Weakness:
NOT FORGIVING OF SYSTEM COMPONENTS I Have offered a review about these speakers before 6/27/99. Alot has changed in my system since then. The biggest single change that affected the sound quality was the addition of a Krell KSA250 Amp. I simply could not believe that there could be so much difference in amps. Hearing is beleiving. The Thiels will reward you with each upgrade, as others have said, its true! If you find these speakers bright, it isn't the speakers! Another plus to the 3.6s is that they have been unchanged since their introduction in 1993! I think that says alot, if you have it right don't change it! I would compare it to a Violin in that regaurd. There is no end to choices out there but I keep coming back to thiel! Similar Products Used: B&W, WILSON, MONITOR AUDIO |
[Sep 08, 2001]
Dan O
Audiophile
Strength:
Transparency, great bass, fit and finish
Weakness:
None I have to chuckle at the folks who describe Thiel speakers as "bright" sounding. Apparently, these people have never experienced true transparency before! Thiels will not suffer less upstream components gladly and, more so, they will give you every nuance of your source material. If you're playing a harsh, glaring and bright CD, these speakers will sound harsh, glaring and bright. If you're spinning some early 1980's Columbia vinyl with no bass, a flat soundstage and compressed dynamics, these speakers will give you no bass, a flat soundstage and flat dynamics! If you aspire to colorations and euphonics to make your substandard source material sound musical, look elsewhere for speakers! Similar Products Used: Various Legacies, B&W, KEF, and many others including the Legacy Sig's these replaced |
[Apr 20, 2000]
Justin Kelley
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
audio clarity, imaging, smooth delivery, tight bass
Weakness:
can sound bright if not matched with the right equipment I haven't owned these speakers long, so my review is based on initial impressions. I may try to give a more updated review in the future. Similar Products Used: NHT, B&W, Totem, Martin-Logan |