Sampo SME-34WHD5 Standard Televisions

Sampo SME-34WHD5 Standard Televisions 

DESCRIPTION

36" Diagonal Pure Flat, High-Definition Widescreen Picture Tube (34" Viewable) Compatible with all ATSC Video Formats (1080i, 720p, 480p)

USER REVIEWS

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[Jun 10, 2003]
feiling
Audio Enthusiast

Strength:

Picture, display capabilities 720p, 1080i, XGA 1024 x 768. Picture adjustments, everything you find on a computer monitor, pincushion, rotation, parallelogram, trapezoid, H size, V size...

Weakness:

Slow input selection, must scroll through them all. HEAVY! 191 pounds.

This is the best direct view HDTV out there! The monitor is professional grade from Toshiba, this is the only t.v. that uses this tube in the U.S. The progressive picture is amazing, the style is wonderful. I'll admit that regular NTSC broadcasts suck, but I definitely didn't spend $1300 for an HDTV to watch over the air, cable, or satellite NTSC broadcasts. I bought this t.v. because it's the only 16:9 direct view that displays 720p in it's native form, and the only one that can display XGA. Connect this monitor through the progressive component inputs and the RGB input and you will be in heaven!

Similar Products Used:

Sony Wega 32"

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
[May 31, 2001]
Ian Stewart
Casual Listener

Strength:

This is a comment to help others decide what they want, rather than a full review, although I will say that the broadcast HDTV using a DTC-100 is impressive and I love the color fidelity. I bought the Sampo because of it's price, it's picture in the showroom, and because (most importantly) I wanted a 16:9 set that was not a projection TV (so that I didnt have to set it on the floor). Now that I have had it for a few months, what I really like about it, other than the growing number of broadcast HDTV shows, is the full widescreen treatment of DVD's, even my "old" non-progressive, composite-output Sony. Now, anytime I see letterboxed DVD's on a 4:3 TV I think "What a waste!". You need a truly large set to make up for it. Two changes I will make shortly are: Digital Satellite - if I am not mistaken the digital signal across all channels will be upconverted to 540p or 1080i (source of 720p and 1080i), so the benefits are not restricted to the few HBO Hi-Def shows over satellite. All channels, being digital, will be converted by the DTC100 to one of the above formats. Digital cable, on the other hand, currently offers only channels above 99 in digital format. The other change will be to add a progressive scan, component output DVD player, which can cost as little as $300 (see the Sampo DVE line). With those two changes I dont believe I will need to view ANY interlaced programming or DVD movies, except at 1080i, which is fine with me. Another reason I bought it is because it supports 720p, although the DTC-100 doesnt, looking ahead to possible equipment changes in the future

Weakness:

Assuming you buy the Sampo for the same reasons I did these aren't really weaknesses. This is not a TV to view analog cable shows on because of the window-boxing (bars on the side)and the fact that the TV itself doesn't line double (one reason it's reasonably priced). Analog cable shows run into the TV's coax input produce a better picture than when run (unnecessarily) through the DTC100. Also, once I start getting all-digital satellite, the majority of shows will still be in 4:3 format, thus great-picture, but window-boxed. However I value the braodcast HDTV experience, the wide-screen DVD's and satellite movies above network television watching. Incidentally, I leave the Sampo in wide-screen mode for my 9 year old to watch kid's shows on, so as to avoid any possible burn in from the sidebars. He doesnt notice.

For a year round thrill, at a third the cost of a motorcycle, the combination of DTC100 and Sampo HDTV monitor is hard to beat. Add satellite and low-end progressive scan DVD and you get great viewing. Add Dolbby 5.1 (which I already have) and you may not wish to go to theaters, or rent anything (use pay-per-view instead). Gave it 5 stars for value and potential, 4 overall because it is only for those who want 16:9, direct view at a good price.

Similar Products Used:

None really, but a lot of showroom watching, and many questions.

OVERALL
RATING
4
VALUE
RATING
5
[Apr 10, 2001]
Jen
Audiophile

Weakness:

WEIGHT - 200 POUNDS!

The picture is truly stunning. I was hesitant to buy the Sampo without being able to see it first but words cannot describe how happy I am that I took that leap of faith.
The picture is beyond beautiful. The most difficult part of the setup was getting the monster into my fourth floor walk-up apartment and then onto the stand since it weighs twice as much as I do. Thankfully I have some big friends.
I also purchased the DVDO Iscan Pro linedoubler to improve the quality of VHS and DTV signals. While I'm sure there may be other TVs that produce a picture of comparable quality the Sampo's price is what sets it apart from the rest. Other companies are charging up to three times as much for their products. I think Sampo is going to be a major player in the US video market when people see what TV really can be.

Similar Products Used:

None. It's my first my last my everything...

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
[Feb 03, 2001]
Chuck
Casual Listener

Strength:

Price, picture, ease of use, connections

Weakness:

Weight, weight and weight.

OK, someone had to be first. Read the great reviews, but realized the only way to get this TV is to buy one online.

Since I am hardly the HDTV expert, here was what I was looking for: 34" 16:9 tube-type, lots of connections inc. VGA, ability to support 720p format, quality of picture, and (of course) PRICE.

Sampo seemed to have what I wanted, but couldn't verify the picture. OK, it's here, it's installed, I've run CATV and DVD (480i) throught it, and it's breathtaking. Haven't calibrated it yet (just dialed down the green so everyone didn't look so nauseous), put on a DVD and my family won't let me tweak it, they're busy watching the movie. Flat screen rocks. Clarity and resolution is spectacular. You're immersed in the detail immediately.

Can't vouch for the built-in speakers (who'd want those, anyway?) but the picture is as good or better than similar units I saw in the stores, and for a whole lot less simoleans.

All in all, a good experience. I don't feel I could have done better for anything under $8000. I'll post again as I move to broadcast HDTV and 480p inputs, as well as having it calibrated.

P.S. Dynacom took my order, but was impossible to contact. Their tracking system didn't work. Finally, we got an email saying that it was en-route. Just be warned, they're not very communicative. Oh, and this sucker won't fit through your front door unless you take it out of the box. Bring some friends ...

Similar Products Used:

Sony 4:3 XBR TVs

OVERALL
RATING
4
VALUE
RATING
5
[Feb 05, 2001]
Rishi
Audiophile

Strength:

Picture tube (monitor grade), over all picture tone, quality and sound. Highest bandwidth (75 MHz).

Weakness:

Weight, No S-Video hook up in the rear, Lack of presets.

I get this set directly for sampo after it was calibrated before shipping. The set is extremely heavy (200 lbs), so placement is a chore. After watching through various 480i sources (DVD, satellite broadcast) I was not all that impressed. Still it was much better than the Sony XBR-400 though. This set shines when hooked up to a 480p source to it's 15 pin VGA inputs. Then you also get additional monitor like settings like v/h-size, pin cushion etc. The picture and color scheme was outstanding, very un-TV like and more Theater like. But remember, you have to feed a high quality 480p or higher source. I achive this by using Silicone Image iScan Pro scan convertor. In that way you don't have to invest in an expensive progressive scan DVD player. You can feed all sources (DVD, dish, VHS) to iScan pro and get a very smooth progressive scan output (15 pin VGA), much better than any progressive scan dvd player...Yes even better than the $1500 sony DVP-S9000ES! I must say that this TV is not for everybody, it needs some initial calibration (used Video Essentials from Imaging Science Foundation). Once done, you will not look at any other direct view wide screen TV, not even the expensive plasma displays (picture may be larger, but no where close to Sampo SME-34WHD5). 4 star in overall rating 'cause of lack of presets. After I have caliberated this set, there is no way to save the settings except to write it down on a piece of paper.

Associated components:
Silicone Image iScan Pro $900
Marantz DVD-930 $850
Echo star 4000 series satellite receiver

Similar Products Used:

Sony KV36XBR-400, Sony PFM-42B1 flat panel, Panasonic 34" wide screen HD.

OVERALL
RATING
4
VALUE
RATING
5
[Jul 22, 2001]
Chris
Audiophile

Strength:

Direct View 16:9 multi sync HDTV.

Weakness:

See article

First units problems and corespondance with Sampo...
I had talked on the phone trying to describe these problems and trouble shoot. Finally Sampo asked me to right down all the issues and email it to them.

*******
Sampo SME-34WHD5
chassis no. C-36-D5
M SME-34WHD5 manufacture date 2000 May
Serial number 022600019

This is attempt number three now. (I Generally get paid or get gifted things that I have to beta test.)

Associated equipment
DiSH Network DiSH 6000: High Definition Integrated Receiver Decoder (Outputs RGB or Component as 720P or 1080I)
Silicon Image DVDO iScan Pro: External Line doubler outputs 480P as Component or VGA EAD TheaterVision P: Progressive Scan DVD player (Based on same line doubler as iScan but directly attached to the MPEG decoder board)
Standard VHS VCR 240
Sony S-360: Interlaced component DVD player

Local rep has looked at this set and seen most of the problems listed below. Contact them for confirmation.

Tube:
Tube is misconverged in over 90% of the screen. White lines next to any other color ar out lined by either red green or blue. This is always apparent on Geometry test patterns. Misconvergance begins in the dead center of the set and gets worse as you move out to the edges of the tube.

When displaying a plain single color field there is a noticeable color shift 1 inch in from both sides of the set that runs the height of the set. It is visible with any solid color field. (Later IDed as tube shadding wich is a part of manufacturing of the Toshiba tube.)

Bad DC restoration. White lines not only leave a tracer but the image is displayed for a fairly long time. Watching movies with lots of blacks gets difficult, when the lit scenes are still displayed on the screen as the person is supposed to be walking into the dark.

Tube displays a bowing from the top of the set towards the center. Test patterns that display a straight line across the screen are correct at the bottom of the tube and in the middle then get bent down as you approach the top of the tube. Things change shape as they pass across the screen, caving in as they approach the middle then expanding as they cross.

Component Inputs:
Unit has fine diagonal lines that pulse in the image when using component inputs to YPBPR. Lines move over the picture then vanishs for a moment, then appears again. This is in all scan modes: 480P, 720P, and 1080I

Unit displays horizontal banding from light objects on the screen across the screen onto darker objects. This produces what looks like smearing on anything white that is near a color. Coupled with the Misconvergance, text in 720P is unreadable near the bottom of the screen. This almost
looks like a double image in component mode. (Not present in RGB mode.)

Unit has a line that runs vertically from top to bottom right at the edge of the screen that is not of uniform brightness. This line is about 15-20 IRE brighter than the rest of the picture. Shifting the image using the controls shows that this problem is not in the signal but at the edge of the tube, (you can't move it off the screen.)

Incompatibility:
Using the DVDO iScan Pro, the set loses sync whenever:
1. Most of the screen is displaying an image that has 50 percent or more of the screen as bright white or a white field is displayed for a brief amount of time.

Examples
Shanghai Noon: Chapter 6 Multiple drop outs during fight scene as white water splashes up onto the screen.
Armageddon: Chapter 2 Drop out right after, 'We're moving the Hubbell!" Shot goes from a close up of the telescope to a white field (demonstrating a picture flash) then to the Hubbell. The Abyss Various underwater scenes the set flashes that it is losing and resyncing.

2. When a commercially produced VHS tape is played the set loses sync as soon as you hit play. (Standard Def. Sat programming is routed through the VCR for recording.) When the VCR is passing the sat signal to the iScan the image is displayed with no drop outs. As soon as the VCR tape
starts the Sampo flashes No Signal and then goes black in RGB mode. In component mode instead of going black the set tries to hold the image. You get a image that fills the 16:9 screen at the bottom of the tube but forms a trapezoid that flashes back and forth to the edges of the tube. It alternates between this and just blacking out.

The iScan Pro has a switch on the front of the unit to select between 3 picture modes. Full, Gray Bars, and Black Bars. The iScan has this switch for compatibility with sets that lock into 16:9 mode with 480P signals.
Full: passes the signal as 480P direct from source. This can cause images to be stretched across the full screen that were meant to be displayed on a 4:3 ratio screen.
Gray Bars: Produces a 480P signal with the image flanked left and right by Gray Bars. This is useful for watching NTSC converted to progressive in proper aspect Ratio.
Black Bars: As above but with black bars. Not suitable for displays that are subject to burn in.

When switching between modes on the iScan the set loses sync, displays black, then the picture reappears.

(Note: I have hooked the iScan up to a 32" Computer Monitor made by Toshiba for Gateway and none of the above problems occur.)

Operation:
Set takes a long time to accept a second command. The inclusion of discrete codes on the second remote you sent improves things greatly. Switching between sources no longer requires... INPUT wait wait wait INPUT... around to the input you wanted. Power Up the set and the screen must be displayed before any other command will be accepted.

Selecting the input you are already on causes the set to lose sync and go to black. the time it takes to resync is noticeable to end users. If the input displayed is selected via remote, the set should just display the name of the input and not have to resync.

The Unit has refused to turn on 3 times in the past 3 weeks that it has been here. Pressing power on the set or on the remote has zero effect. Using the discrete on code does not work either. Unit must be unplugged and have the blades of the receptical crossed with a metal object to reset the set. Plug the set back in and the unit operates as normal.

SUGGESTION:
With the introduction of the Toshiba and Sony HD set atop boxes you may want to take this into consideration.
Both of these IRDs have 1 set of component outputs. These outputs are user configurable to output 480I or 1080I. To connect to the Sampo sets they would need a spliter to connect to YPRPB and YCRCB. There is also a VGA output but if the IRDs function like my DiSH unit it is a either or
on the RGB vs COMPONENT.
**********

Sampo sent me anotherset and took away the old one. Here is the email that was written about the second set.

*********
Round 2

A new unit was delivered from Delta last week.

When the unit was first unpacked Mr. Long noticed a gap in the TV. The screw at the top left of the front panel had not been tightened down. I grabbed a screwdriver and tightened up the offending gap. The Gap closed.

Necessary info
SME-34WHD5
Manufacture Date of September 2000
Serial number 040600620
Chasis no. C-36D5

This unit has much better convergence. The line that outlined every object in either red, green, or blue is considerably lessened.

Unit still has drop outs with iScan Pro and commercially recorded VHS. Picture will sync sometimes if you let the tape run for more than 10 seconds. When you hit play the picture disappears. If the picture comes back, (It doesn't always) it will flash and pulse in and out.

Unit has the same problem with Horizontal banding on YPBPR input. Diagonal lines appear and disappear as they pulse through the screen image.

The Tube has the same sort of color shift 1 inch from the sides of the screen. Now as an added bonus there is a color shift as you cross the screen. The screen is tinted blue on the left side of the screen and green near the right side. This is apparent when displaying a uniform white field.

I have yet to do a grey scale calibration.
*********

$3250 for all this...

OVERALL
RATING
1
VALUE
RATING
1
[Jul 09, 2001]
Travis Brodeen
Audio Enthusiast

Strength:

The picture quality is fabulous. The price for the picture is impossible to beat.

Weakness:

It's only a good component video out monitor. Lacks functionality and the speakers hum.

Well I have to say it. This TV is a GREAT picture, and the price is unbeatable. The functionality on this set is non-existent however. It is best suited for leaving in one mode, with the volume off and using it solely as a video monitor for your home theatre. The reason I say this is because it has NO FUNCTIONALITY. For instance, it has about 8 video input settings you can choose from, but you can't go directly to any of them, and you can't disable any of them either. You have to flip through all 8 modes everytime you want to change the input. Also the set waits for the video to sync before it will let you change to the next mode. It easily takes 15-20 seconds to get to the desired video mode. The speakers also create a very annoying high pitched hum at low and high volume, the woofer is nice and bassy however. I leave the speakers on mute and only use my reciever in order to stay sane.

Also there is no SVIDEO connectors on the back? WTF?? The only svideo connector is under a panel on the front of the set, and only one at that. The set puts most of it's effort into providing many many composite connectors.

It suits my need for an affordable picture, but it's also very frustrating when you need to use it for more than just displaying one source. I would only recommend it to someone planning on setting it up and leaving it alone. It is the opposite of function rich.

Similar Products Used:

Sony Wega

OVERALL
RATING
2
VALUE
RATING
4
[Jul 12, 2001]
Michael Brudoley
Audio Enthusiast

this tv/monitor has a displays a better image then any other similiar set on the market. This includes the sony wega series, panasonic tau, rca, or phillips sets. Even out of the box this tv has a better image then every set i looked at except the panasonic tau. Sony's have poor geometry and contrast so it amazes me when people stick by them. However that said, you should configure this baby using video essestionals to get the most out of it. Let me also clarify that the sampo was never designed to do a good god with 480i. Its 480i ntsc performance does suck, but if you buy a 16:9 tv why would you feed it a 480i signal? At the very least you have to buy a dvdo like the iscan pro to upconvert the image to 480p. A 480p source bypasses the cheap notch filter in the sampo and provides you with a perfect near hdtv quality image. The iscan also gives you a line doubler that is twice as good as any built in line doubler thay I've seen. The sampos price also makes the expense of the iscan inconsequential. I got mt tv for $2249!!! The speakers in this baby don't hum! My only complaint about them is the cheap fabric cover that sampo installed over them. This tv isnt perfect but for the money and quality it simply cant be beat. Hell, its even a computer monitor.

Similar Products Used:

Sony wega xbr400
panasonic tau the 36 inch 16:9 one (who remembers model #s)
rca 38 incher with built in directv decoder
26-36 inch 16:9 phillips and samsung sets (these were the worst)

OVERALL
RATING
4
VALUE
RATING
5
[Apr 16, 2001]
Miguel
Audio Enthusiast

Strength:

See Review

Weakness:

See Review

You've got to be kidding me if you think the 480i performance on the Sampo is better than an XBR400. First of all, there's no digital comb filter (only a piece of crap notch filter), so vertical white lines have purple and green around their edges (hello? I'd like 90s technology, thank you). There's no line-doubling or thickening of any kind, so this makes 480i images look even more primative, and buying a DVDO only solves some of your problems (and is an unnecessary added expenditure).

I think 480p/720p/1080i performance on this set is superb, though, and was among the best I'd seen (I've read that Sampo, Panasonic, and SharpVision all employ a very similar Toshiba 34" tube). I have no clue as to why they didn't put an S-Video jack on the back of this unit if they were going to put on on the front. VGA performance is superb.

Stylistically, this set is kind of ugly, and the mesh covering on the speakers is amazingly cheap and thin (as is the remote, which is a piece of junk). I like the geometry controls on the component/VGA inputs. Controls for 480i were fairly minimal.

Convenience features are NOWHERE to be found. C'mon, no sleep timer or PIP/side-by-side? Please. Input switching is SLOW, and there were dark vertical bars on either side of the screen where color purity wasn't very good (especially on white or blue backgrounds). The internal speakers are excellent, however, and are better than most sets on the market.

Overall, this is a great set for those who are looking to use it primarily for progressive-scan DVD, HDTV, and computer applications. If you watch a lot of regular TV or play lots of video games, look elsewhere... there are much better choices out there.

Similar Products Used:

All 34" and 36" 16:9/4:3 direct-views.

OVERALL
RATING
3
VALUE
RATING
4
[Mar 05, 2001]
P. Kiesow
Audio Enthusiast

Strength:

brightest, clearest, most breathtaking cathode ray experience -- not joking here

Weakness:

heavy and a not a breeze to set up: so you need muscles [or friends to help lift] and an above average I.Q.: get used to it and stop whining!

The Sampo 34" is a DREAM, and if ASCII text allowed me, I would italicize, bold and underline the word ' dream', as well! The picture on HDTV mode is so rich and the colors so pure that it achieves a surreal-like quality. The satellite guys even had to hold up their service calls to gape at the Direct TV Ch 199 loop -- and they had seen it many times previously on other digital monitors and projection setups. I'm now even warming to the interminable clicking of scroll menu buttons.

I have an elliptical DirecTV dish and an RCA DTC-100 receiver, which processes its signals, plus decodes off-the-air HDTV signals from my local channels . . . as well as categorizing and processing all local analog station signals. (Isn't it a bit ironic that most of my true HDTV 1080i feeds emanate from FREE local airwaves? It's rich in both concept and content.) Everything is then fed through the Sampo's 15-pin RGB VGA input.

Yes the picture is truly sublime, and I am looking forward to hooking up the rest of my 'theater': progressive scan on the way, etc. I'm now even warming to the interminable clicking of scroll menu buttons. Oh, and by the way, this set gets a solid five stars from me: this whining about it being heavy with a higher than average color temperature does not cut it. The set likely is priced some $2,000 lower than it ought to be, due to Sampo's entering the market in the U.S. with an over-engineered product to achieve penetration. You have gotten yourself a DEAL, if you've been forward enough to get this beauty. Period. . . . Make that an exclamation mark!

-- Paul Kiesow in Sacramento, CA

Similar Products Used:

my first HDTV, but have compared the Panasonic direct-view and viewed many rear projection HDTVs (arrgghh!)

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
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