Denon AVR-1802 A/V Receivers
Denon AVR-1802 A/V Receivers
[Dec 10, 2001]
Christian
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
Great Sound. Lots of functions. A lot of in and outputs. Nice Design (gold).
Weakness:
Volume and select knob are in plastic wich gives it a little cheaper look than the avr-2802 model, but concidering the price difference you dont want to get the avr-2802 just because of the knobs =) If dont need more that 5x80 watts of power, wich most people dont unless they want to show off infront of their friends, i would really recommend the avr-1802. Not only does it sound great, but it really looks great to (gold version). Similar Products Used: A old Onkyo stereo reciver. |
[Dec 18, 2001]
Chris Marks
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
Impeccable Dolby Digital, DTS and ProLogic II decoding. Awesome sound for 'only' 80 watts per channel.
Weakness:
Remote design I've saved my $$ for a long time to by my new Home Theater system and have previously auditioned AV receivers for many months. While the features of many I compared were similar, it was simply the performance of the AVR1802 that sold me. Others have more 'bells and whistles'. For example, some had 10 or more DSP sound simulations. Club, jazz, stadium, cathedral...Who uses these anyway? That kind of stuff is for boom boxes. And some also had higher bit-rate DAC's. But for me, my ultimate decision was based on what my ears heard when listening to music in stereo, and when 'listening' to a DVD movie in 5.1 surround. My system is as follows: Similar Products Used: Auditioned Yamaha RXV620, Onkyo TX-DS595, Harman Kardon AVR310 and a few others (Sony ES, Pioneer Elite, Kenwood), all in the $500.00 range. |
[Jan 24, 2002]
Rob
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
Bang for the bucks, PLII, Sound & Build quality
Weakness:
remote, small display, takes time to learn all the functions I upgraded from my Onkyo 474 to the Denon 2802 because it had more power(80w x5), better sound, prologic II, and the Denon build quality is first rate. I strongly considered the Onkyo 595, but for about the same price the Denon had better features and was built better than the Onkyo. You can see a pic of the Denon 2802 with the top lid off at crutchfield.com. The heat sinks on the Denon are beefy solid aluminum compard to the wimpy steel heat sinks in the Onkyo. Similar Products Used: Onkyo 474, older JVC |
[Jan 24, 2002]
Chris
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
Sounds great, DTS, DPLII, great looking
Weakness:
Bad remote and controls Decided it was time to step up to DTS. I was split between the Yamaha 5460 and Denon 1802, Dolby Pro Logic II sold me. Really does make a difference in both TV and music. Since most TV is still broadcast in stereo, DPLII is a useful feature. The reciever is attractive with not too many buttons and lights. Now for the bad. As everybody stated, the remote is bad. But, I figured on using my learning remote (RCU-810) instead. Wrong! First off, this model is not pre-programmed into any univeral remote that I have found yet (RCA, Sony, Radio Shack). Since my remote has limited memory, I was unable to learn all the keys. And the most annoying thing, there are seprate On-Off buttons. Why??? I don't see any reason for this other than really, really poor design. Makes it hard to use a different remote. Similar Products Used: Yamaha DSP-780 |
[Jan 15, 2002]
Tim Truman
Audiophile
Strength:
DTS/Dolby 5.1/Logic Pro/Excellent Construction/Quality Electronic Components.
Weakness:
Pre-Amp not sonically transparent. Having the space for only one entertainment room in my home I was in the market for a HT receiver that could integrated into my existing sound system without sacrificing sound quality or my budding HT budget. I have auditioned Denon equipment in the past and have always liked the sound quality. This entry level unit has pre-outs to feed existing amplifiers so it is a very logical choice for my situation. Other key selling points are the individual drive transistors, huge power transformers and use of relays not found in most other entry level units I inspected. The underrated 80 watts of power per channel has proved more than adequate to drive the center channel and rear channels (all Infinity RS-2000's) right along with my front pair of Yamaha NS-1000's powered by a Yamaha MX-1000 and two 12" JBL subs planted against the back of the couch. Those wired in parallel, are driven by a Bridged RA-870 Rotel. The resulting sound in the 12X20ft room is in a word spectacular. NS-1000's make great fronts in a room this size, the musical scores are delivered with all the emotional persuasion and impact. There superb imaging presents audio cues precisely in 3D space. In the Matrix scene where Neo is circled by bullet time...you can precisely locate the bullets leaving the smith's gun in 3d space while the previously fired bullets are passing by you exactly in relation to the visual cues up on the screen. Far better realism than any 5.1 theater I have patroned. That's where the Denon shines for me. The sonic quality of this 5.1 decoder is perfectly suited to the HT task. When it comes to serious music listening however I am forced into connecting my CD player directly back to my MX-1000. Upon a home audition I immediately noticed the Denon slightly diminishes the clarity on my most listened to CD's. Frequencies in the higher end of the spectrum seem restricted and lacked precise detail. On some scores it completely changed the musical signature of an instrument. When paying CD's on the DVD player connected through an optical input there was only a slight improvement in the perceived restriction. This could be caused by an impedance mismatch between the pre-outs on the Denon and the Yamaha amp. But I am not disappointed with this short coming, frankly because I expected it. $500 dollars for a unit that does everything from receiving FM to Decoding 5.1 has to have some flaws over $500 dollar pre-amps that are just what they are...pre-amps. If you are looking for a solid 5.1 decoder that can connect existing equipment into your HT this unit is worthy of your money. If you are a true audiophile with sonically excellent equipment and enjoy listening sessions with studio monitor quality speakers ... best to keep that system separate. Lastly I have to humorously agree with the other reviewers who included the remote. It's functionally fine but the fact the batteries are up in the front of the unit is really testing. The first two weeks you will find yourself pointing it the wrong way by habit because most remotes place the battery weight in the palm of your hand. After kicking the weight in palm habit you will find it hard to grip the remote naturally since you have to keep it from falling over your fingers. When it comes time to replace the batteries I am sure another chuckle will escape my lips when I reach for non exsistant compartment door at the bottom of the unit. This is a tiny short coming to the package, no pun intended. Put in the DVD reach over and turn the volume knob on the Denon to read 0db and prepare to be immersed in a solid 5.1 experience. |
[Jan 15, 2002]
John Arne
Casual Listener
Strength:
Enough power. Lot of options. Price
Weakness:
Remote.Cant understand why ther is only one coax.. The older AVR-1700 has 2. only pre. out on front, center and sub. I bought the AVR-1802 altought i hadnt listened to it. I wanted a reciever with possibility for Dolby Digital, and played music well. After having looked arroun a bit the choice was between the Denon and a Marantz SR5200. The guy in the shop recomended the denon for music and punc.. altough the Marantz is 6x85 Watts. Similar Products Used: Denon AVR-1700 |
[Jan 05, 2002]
Jeremy R.
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
Super smooth sound for movies & music, DTS/Dolby Digital/Pro-Logic II, good selection of inputs
Weakness:
Remote is silly, no on-screen menu setup, no component video jacks. I began looking for an affordable yet well-built A/V receiver in the $400-600 range, and eventually narrowed my choices down to Denon, Onkyo, & Yamaha. After demoing each for a week, I was most impressed w/ the AVR-1802. The Yamaha had more features (buttons, soundfields etc.) but didn't sound nearly as good. The Onkyo was very similar, but the Denon's higher wattage (80 vs. 75), and seemingly one more of everything (video inputs, digital & standard outputs, front inputs) made me lean towards the Denon. Plus, the Onkyo was a bit more expensive compared to my final price, by about $150. |
[Jan 02, 2002]
Doug
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
Great sound,power. The DTS mode for DVD'S blows you away.5 channel stereo mode is great for music
Weakness:
remote control is small with tiny buttons Was using a Yamaha powerhouse..was concerned about the Denon's 80 watts per channel. After about 2 minutes of listening..I could'nt belive my ears,the sound and power were awesome. I use a set of Bose Acoustimass 15 speakers..which I have never been really thrilled with..but with this Denon receiver..they sound great..the bass really thumps. I looked at H/K'S and Onkyo's of similar price..I liked the Denon's A&B speaker option to drive a second pair of JBL'S. Shopped the internet..but bought locally to eliminate any shipping and warranty concerns...its worth the extra money.Other that the remote control...very impressed!! Similar Products Used: Had a Yamaha RX-V2090 |
[Jan 02, 2002]
jacques
Audiophile
Strength:
superb,nice design overall, lots of adjustable parameters
Weakness:
pee-wee remote:buttons to small, jacks not gold plated. a) The BEST web site :you can download the spec sheets,AND Similar Products Used: jvc |
[Dec 14, 2001]
Doug A
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
Excellent sound for price, still has phono input for turntable, lots of hookups, S-Video switching,
Weakness:
Remote: complicated, small buttons, does not light up and will not control other brands, including sat receiver. warentee policy: Denon will not honor warentee of any equipment not purchased on a "authorized Denon dealer" -- who didn't have the unit. I tried. Outstanding value on e-bay auction. For price I paid I could afford risking having to pay for defect. Overall sound is fantastic, tuner works well, Similar Products Used: Sony, Hitachi, receivers and stereo equipment |