Onkyo TX-DS787 A/V Receivers

Onkyo TX-DS787 A/V Receivers 

DESCRIPTION

Newest AV receiver 100 W/CH for 6 channels THX surround EX reciever 6.1 channel amplifier Preouts for 7.1 channels

USER REVIEWS

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[Aug 17, 2001]
Neil Whittle
Audio Enthusiast

Strength:

Excellent sound, Build, Looks and connections to die for.

Weakness:

Heavy! You also need room as it produces a little to much heat for me. Almost like a radistor as well. Well more for your money, thats what I think.

I'm really glad I purchase this product. I have every thing connected to it and more. MD, CD , DVD, TV, Video, PS/2, PC and Nin 64.
Even though I have all of these connected I only have 2 speaker (of a crappy little Hi-fi) and a PDR-10 sub, the sound is excellent. So when I get myself out of Debt and get some proper speakers, it will be like I'm sitting in my own little cinema.

Well done ONKYO. Keep up the good work, but try to bring the cost down so I can buy some speakers next time!!

Similar Products Used:

Denon, Yamaha, Sony and Pioneer.

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
[Jun 28, 2001]
Marshawn McLeod
Audio Enthusiast

Strength:

HD switching capable, True 100 watt per channel power, THX select, THX SX,

Weakness:

No DTS-ES discrete, Pro Logic II

I think that this piece is one of the best in its price class. I researched and listen to both the Onkyo and Denon. In the end the Onkyo sounded better with my speaker setup (Infinity IL25 center, IL40 fronts, IL10 back, and IL 120 sub). Both are great units, depending on your speaker configurations, you can't loose with either. An added bonus was that the remote controller all of my components! Some required some programming, but it was a piece of cake. The OSD is very logical. My wife can use it! One word of advice if you haven't purchased a receiver yet and your considering the 787 or the Denon, try and hold off until fall. Onkyo will be releasing the 797, which will replace the 787 and include all of the items I listed as weaknesses. Anyone want to buy a 787? Great product!

Similar Products Used:

Denon 3801

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
4
[Jun 24, 2001]
Francesco
Audio Enthusiast

Strength:

Remote. 7.1 inputs. TXH

Weakness:

Runs to hot. Needs proper ventilation.

Bought and returned a couple of Yamaha receivers. Nothing wrong with them, specially the RX-V620. The quality, sound, and features of the units are comparable to the Onkyo. The Onkyo, of course, retails for twice the price of the 620, but you also get so much more for the money.
The remote that the Yamaha came with sucks big time. When I thought that I would keep the 620 I was forced to look for a learning unit that would replace the remotes for the TV, cable box, DVD (which I had not purchased yet), and the Yamaha receiver. I looked for about a week and settled on a Sony. Ok remote but it has no backlight and a limited number of buttons. The 787 remote is easy to program, it has a light, and it has plenty of programmable buttons. I wish that I could have found this remote for sale when I needed one, but it came, to my delight, with the 787. This remote would be one of the best if sold separate from the receiver.
This is my second Onkyo receiver (my old receiver was an ProLogic unit I bought back in 94) so I was not surprised by the quality and power of the 787. This thing is big and heavy (but so are most of the $1000 and up receivers). It has plenty of clean power, but it comes at a price. The thing runs hot…very hot. This is not a problem if you put it in a well ventilated spot. If you have a tight space, inside an entertainment cabinet for instance, then I suggest you think twice about its placement. I would not rest another component on top of the receiver. There is a fan in the back of the receiver, so your cabinet should not block the back of the 787. I could not remove the back panel of my cabinet so I had to install a fan powered by the receiver’s 12V trigger. This works Ok. Now the unit is not even warm after hours of use.
The 787 has 7.1 inputs for future upgrades. This was one of the main reasons I chose the Onkyo. I thought if 7.1 takes off in the future, I would not have to dump this unit for some newer technology. Well, let me tell you, the future is now. My search for a DVD player lead me to investigate DVD-Audio. For about the same amount of money as a plain unit (such as a Sony, Panasonic, or a Philips) I could buy one with this new music format. So I read up on DVD-Audio and I came to the conclusion that I HAD to have it. I finally bought the Technics DVD-A10…great unit…built like a tank…heavy and solid, just like the Onkyo. Turns out that if I did not have the 7.1 input, I would not have been able to enjoy DVD-Audio.
Before I bought the Onkyo, I read the reviews on this site. I think there were a couple of negative comments. If I remember correctly, the reviewers recommended Denon receivers. The AVR-3801 is a quality unit (comparable to Onkyo, but not superior to it). They have similar features and the price is about the same. You can’t go wrong with either one. I do, however, disagree with the fact that they posted on the site for the Onkyo TX-DS787 just to give it a negative review. These people seem to be fanatically attached to a certain brand. I do not plan to go to the AVR-3801 review site and claim that the Onkyo is a superior product. I you plan to buy a unit in the $1000 range, I recommend both units (I also highly recommend the Yamaha RX-V620). Go to your local store and let your ears decide.


EQUIPMENT

Onkyo 787 ($750 including tax)

Technics DVD-A10 ($250 plus tax)

Polk RT-800i Main
Polk CS400i Black Center
Polk Velodyne T80 Sub
Polk RT-35i Rear ($1550 including tax)

All monster cables (To much to think about it)

Similar Products Used:

Yamaha HTR-5240, Yamaha RX-V620.

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
[Feb 13, 2001]
Patrick Peters
Audio Enthusiast

Strength:

For a $1000 receiver it sounds great, DVD's rock !

Weakness:

Remote: it listens to closely to the general functions.

Only digital input sources go to the digital output. No A/D converter to convert the analog sources to digital out.

Very clean sound, high output and low distortion. No hiss at low volumes. This baby rocks when it gets to value for money !

Source switching with the remote is not what I expected. Each time I must switch to the audio section before I can switch to another source, little annoying.

This is my HT: Onkyo TX-DS787 the DV-S535 dvd player, b&w s602 s2 front, b&w s601 s2 rear, b&w lcr6 s2 mid.

Similar Products Used:

none

OVERALL
RATING
4
VALUE
RATING
4
[Feb 12, 2001]
Robb
Audio Enthusiast

Strength:

SOUNDS GREAT!!

Weakness:

Lucky for me that I'm inteligent enough to figure out how to configure the different functions...I feel for the the guy that can't think

The system sounds great! I would most certainly "Buy It" The digital outputs to DVD etc. really do make a huge difference. As I have read from some others, the 1st 787 that I brought home had to be returned because it wouldn't turn on. Kept getting a "Thermal Protection" message before I even hooked up anything. It would come on for 3 sec. and then shut off. I think that this model is so popular that Onkyo is trying to rush them out the door and slacking on the quality control.

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
[Feb 11, 2001]
Michael Klein
Audio Enthusiast

Strength:

THX, Onscreen display, fantastic remote, gut-wrenching power as a start. Too many to document.

Weakness:

Price -- Damn Canadian Importer markup
Currently broken after 2 1/2 months use.

After many years of excellent and reliable Pro-logic performance from my Denon, it was time to upgrade after I won a DVD player.

A lot of time was spent reviewing my options and I considered Pioneer Elite, Marantz, Denon AVR-3300 and the Onkyo. THX and the sixth amplifier (EX surround) swung the deal for the Onkyo. Unfortunately in Ottawa there is only one Onkyo dealer so price was on the high side.

So for the first 2 1/2 months it was heaven. Thundering highs and lows driven through my Paradigms. When watching Star Trek: First Contact, it felt as if I was shot by the phaser.

Now for the bad news. Today I had to drop it off at the dealer for repairs. Complete loss of amplification in the left front. Needless to say I am not happy; especially as reliability was a primary consideration for taking the Onkyo over the Pioneer Elite. On top of all this -> 2-3 week turnaround for repairs.

So in summary: when operational, two enthusiastic thumbs up.

Similar Products Used:

Denon AVR610 - similar that is a home theatre receiver

OVERALL
RATING
4
VALUE
RATING
5
[Feb 09, 2001]
dan nicksic
Audio Enthusiast

Strength:

Home Theater Sound

Weakness:

video switching capabilities

Great unit, great Home theater sound

Poor if you need video switching capabilities.
Regular Video input will not display on the monitor out if monitor out is S-Video, and vice versa.

OVERALL
RATING
4
VALUE
RATING
4
[Feb 09, 2001]
Pete Sand
Audio Enthusiast

Strength:

6.1 without external amp. Ease of setup

Weakness:

Directing video output

Overall satisfied with performance. Watch Ind.Day in THX great sound and video even though my DVD is Panasonic A120. Remote could use more direct modes and DSP is just ok. Would like more of an option to select which video source is output to what source. IE. Video one output to component. Sound and video quality are crisp and clear.

Use with
Mitsubshi 60707 TV
Panasonic A120 DVD
Infinity IL50 Fronts and 250W 10" Subs(2)
Infinity IL36c Front center
Infinity IL10 surround
Infinity IL25 center rear

Similar Products Used:

None

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
[Feb 04, 2001]
Brandon Ross
Audio Enthusiast

Strength:

strong bass, great highs and lows, outputs and inputs, on screen display. Tooooo many to list.

Weakness:

none found yet

Before purchasing this unit I highly spoke of the yamaha. That unit doesn't even compare to this reciever. The sound field is a lot clearer and more precise than the yamaha. My speakers sound like $1000 speakers. I use Mission speakers with this unit and they sound incredible. If you can afford this reciever this is a must buy. I have tested many products and this one will last you a long time with the technology already present.

Similar Products Used:

yamaha 500 series.

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
[Feb 01, 2001]
john snyder
Audiophile

Strength:

THX certification, DTS 6.1, component video switching, good power rating, well built.

Weakness:

runs a bit hot, no discrete 6.1, speaker posts are crammed together.

I bought this unit after spending mass amounts of time researching new receivers in stores and on the net. My old Onkyo 555 just wasn't cutting it anymore and it was time to move up a notch. I strongly considered both Dennon and Yamaha models before buying the Onkyo, but I had such good luck with my last unit that I stayed the course.

The 787 is a remarkable unit. The designers crammed just about everything you could ask for in a receiver under $2K. You get THX Select certification, 6.1 and 7.1 (with seperate amp) output, component video switching, plenty of a/v inputs and outputs, onscreen menus and a very useable power rating. The only things I don't like about the receiver are the speaker posts on the back. I use Audioquest Slate and Bedrock cables (both 12 guage) terminated in bananna plugs and it's a *very* tight fit back there!

The sound (and video) the 787 puts out is just awesome. Clean, non fatiguing highs; warm mids and tight, fast bass are all present and accounted for. I've actually never played the amp louder than -7db (0 being the THX reference point) and that was loud enough you couldn't hold a converstation over it! Direct mode is great for 2 channel listening as it adds no processing to the signal. The DSP's are ok...but nothing to write home about. DTS decoding in particular is exceptional with this receiver. Also, progressive scan signals passed via the component outputs do not appear to be degraded any at all.

All in all I'd have to say I'm extremely happy with my purchase and don't plan on upgrading for awhile. Anyone looking to get a great mid-fi receiver would do well to at least listen to the 787. I can't think of a better receiver for under $1K. BTW, the remote is nice as well, fully backlit and has Macro and learning capabilities.

Setup:
Onkyo TX-DS787 receiver
Toshiba SD6200 progressive scan DVD
Toshiba TN50X81 50" RP-HDTV
JVC HR-S7800U S-VHS
Definitive Technology CLR 2300 (center)
Definitive Technology BP2004tl (mains)
Definitive Technology BP2006tl (rears)
Acoustic Research ARS300 (sub)
Audioquest Slate and Bedrock speaker cable
Acoustic Research Pro Cinema interconnects

Similar Products Used:

Onkyo 555

OVERALL
RATING
4
VALUE
RATING
5
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