Onkyo TX-DS797 A/V Receivers
Onkyo TX-DS797 A/V Receivers
[Nov 01, 2002]
Philip
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
Easy to use - worked all menus out without the instructions... Nice sound modes - THX and Dolby PLII are nice and are not included on my AX1... I like the display, the build quality, the remote and the features
Weakness:
THAT DAM CLICKING... how can they allow this product to go in to release with this fault. No good to customers if they find out it's faulty and Onkyo have to lock the gate after the horse has bolted as it were First off the price i quote is GB pounds not dollars or anything else! I have this amp on loan due to my misfortune to have a Yamaha DSP AX1 which has been returned for faults 4 times in 18 months. I'm not overimpressed with the Onkyo as it is a loaner from the store and it too has a fault!!! I got all the clicking faults previously mentioned on here. It seems to me that it clicks and pops through the rear centre channel most of the time and especially when using the speaker cal setup and the sub woofer is outputting the test signal. there's really bad clicking from the sub and rear centre. DISAPPOINTING! Other than that it's a fine amp but as it's not mine i can't take it for the repair and i'm sure the store will think i'm a moaner if i complain to them about this so i'll just keep quiet and wait for my AX1 yam to come back again. Similar Products Used: Yamaha dsp AX1 |
[Oct 27, 2002]
Dave
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
Powerful, semi-attractive, versatile.
Weakness:
No tape monitor. You need to turn this thing up to about 50 just to make it go (why??). So far so good. I have not (yet) experienced the problems with clicking or dropouts so my fingers remain crossed. It took a little getting used to a receiver having had separate components for many years, but I think I can adjust. This is a nice unit with a few shortcomings. The main drawback is the absence of a tape monitor loop. I was flabbergasted to learn (from the folks at Onkyo directly) that they decided to omit this connection from their systems because people were frying their stereos by connecting equalizers to them. My room acoustics and my taste in music and its reproduction demands an EQ, and I haven't been without one for many years. The only way I was able to use my EQ was to connect it to the pre-out on the 797 (main front speakers) and then run the output from my EQ to a second amplifier. It was an additional expense but worth it! I'm using the 797 to drive my center speaker, surround speakers, and passive subwoofer, and the outboard amp powers my main front speakers with the EQ'd signal. I was planning to buy an out-of-box unit that Circuit City had on the display shelf, but the poor thing had a nasty scratch along the enitre top of the faceplate. I had noticed there was a brand new identical unit being installed in their "high-end" room, and after considerable negotiations I convinced them to sell me that one for the same price as the one that was pounded. I dare say the price was right! There is ample power available from this receiver, and after poking around with it for a while I've become comfortable with the controls. I'm a bit old fashioned and would prefer front panel buttons and switches for the various controls and adjustments, but the menu system is OK once you figure it out. In addition to the 797, my entertainment system consists of the following: Additional Amplifier: Onkyo M-282 Equalizer: AudioSource EQ-100 Speakers: Main: Cerwin-Vega SAT-6 Center: Bose VCS-10 Surround: Bose 2.2 Turntable: Denon DP-47F CD Recorder / Player: Philips CDR 785 Cassette Deck: JVC TD-W118BK DVD / CD / MP3 Player: Pioneer DV-353 Television: 32” General Electric 32GT720 Line Conditioner / Surge Protector: Monster Powerbar 2100 Headphones: Sony MDR-CD888XR |
[Oct 22, 2002]
sternerd
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
Power, Power, Power! This has every feature you could possibly think of, including Phono! They definitely thought of everything. The remote. 7.1 and 8.1 capabilities.
Weakness:
The display LED panel is kinda old-school. I spent A LOT of time reviewing A/V receivers online that I think I almost went blind! I mean, come on, it is your most important piece of your entertainments system... Most of the comparisons were made between Harmon Kardon and Yamaha. Sure the Onkyo is a little more expensive, but when it came down to it, having the Onkyo THX certified and having the 6.1 surround sound more than made up for that difference in cost. As long as were on that subject, I bought mine at Circuit City. I knew they did price-matching, but I wasn't sure about online stores. So I asked. I'm glad I did! They gave me $200 off just for asking!! This receiver is probably more than I'll ever need, but who cares! The difference in the Onkyo vs. my old Pioneer Pro Logic reciever from college isn't even funny. The Pioneer was a great little receiver, but having Dolby Digital is defintely a huge step upwards. I threw in Gladiator to make use of the DTS-ES and ... wow... how cool was that?! I have Monster speaker wire and Monster cable running throughout my whole system. I have JBL speakers, N24 II's in the back and some nice older speakers in front and center. Sounds excellent. Also, just bought the CHT-8 Velodyne sub, from Circuit City also. What a difference a sub makes! There are so many set-up features to make use of I haven't even had a chance yet, right down to the size of speakers you're using and how many feet away from the listener they are. The learning remote is awesome as well. I've programed all of my remotes into this one and now only need one remote for everything! It takes a little time, but it's a great feature. You can plug just about anything into your receiver as well. There are 5 video inputs, as well as your DVD, CD, Satellite, MD, and Phono! There are 3 Coaxial Digital ports and 4 digital fiber optic ports. This also has a preamp out for 2 more speakers if the technology ever catches up, so you can have 7.1 and 8.1 surround sound. If you want a top of the line receiver at a relatively low cost, you should definitely get this receiver. Similar Products Used: Harmon Kardon AVR-520 Yamaha VR-1200(2000?) (I think that's the model) |
[Oct 21, 2002]
Donald
Audio Enthusiast
I love the unit. I don't have the popping sound, but that is fixable if it occurs. ON the dropout comment. I called TEch Support at Onkyo because I just bought the unit and I won't be stuck with that feature. They said to call a Service Tech, they have a solution and are shipping the chips to the authorized service agents. It is covered under the 2 year warranty |
[Oct 03, 2002]
g man
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
all
Weakness:
should be learnable remote Great receiver, no more to be said. ONE thing, for people who cannot research or read, about movie sound dropouts, Go to the dolby lab. they explain everything. Similar Products Used: denon |
[Sep 30, 2002]
Ed
AudioPhile
Strength:
Good price, excellent sound, lots of inputs, THX certification, excellent backlit remote.
Weakness:
None, but perhaps those who are really into 7.1 would like to have amplification included for the second surround back speaker. Had this unit for 4 months. Chose the 797 over the Denon 3802 because of the THX certification and excellent backlit remote among other things. Sound was excellent with both music and HT. I have not experienced any audio dropouts with the Pearl Harbor, Jurassic Park III and LOTR movies as mentioned in the reviews below. Maybe the model sold in Australia does not have the audio dropout problem. |
[Sep 18, 2002]
ivod
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
Price, Features, Sound, .....the works.
Weakness:
The two problems as described above. But can be solved. ( See above ) Very good AV-receiver. Lots of features. Haven't seen another receiver that has more features within this price range. Sound is also perfect. Regarding the known problems with this receiver: 1) Clicking noise 2) Audio drop outs Onkyo in the Netherlands repairs problem 1 at no cost as long as the warranty is still valid. Have not have to send my receiver yet. Onkyo in the Netherlands confirms the existence of problem 2. It confirms that within a couple of months a new pre-programmed chip will be installed in the affected receivers at no cost as long as the receivers have been purchased at authorized dealers. Otherwise you have to pay for the update yourself. ( How much I don't know ) This chip is being developed together with Dolby. Thanks to the Lord of the Rings DVD this problem is now well spread. Which is a good thing because it now puts pressure on both Onkyo and Dolby to expedite their efforts. ( Thank you A-film: distributor of LOTR ). So as long as you purchased from an authorized dealer you're safe for both problems. I don't feel this problem because I play back the affected DVD's via the multichannel output of the DVD or via the DTS track if the disc is so equipped. We don't have HBO broadcast here so no problem with that as well. But I hope to have modified my receiver before I am able to receive digital broadcast. My set consists of 1) Onkyo TX-DS797 av receiver 2) Toshiba SD-520E DVD 3) 2 Magnat Vector ( fronts ) 4) 3 Magnat Vector dipoles (back and sur.) 5) 1 Magnat Vector needle 10 center 6) 1 yamaha YST-SW800 sub 7) QED silver aniversary spkr cable ( bi wire for the fronts ) 8) QED AV4110 sqart and QED P75 coax Anyway I would still recommend this receiver. Nothing beats it at this price. Similar Products Used: I am a rookie in the home theater world. First time purchase. |
[Sep 15, 2002]
Lord Helmchen
Audio Enthusiast
I'm pretty satisfied with this Receiver. However I just want to comment on the DD EX dropout problem. Personally it didn't affect me yet, as I simply use the Multichannel input when I play a DVD with this problem. However, as The Lord of the Rings was released on DVD in Germany, the problem suddenly became very evident, as many,many ppl bought that DVD, and most of them complained to Kenwood, Onkyo and Denon. I wrote an e-mail to Onkyo in Germany and got an answer in less then 6 hours. They said that the responsible chip will be programmed with new software to get rid of the problem, and that as soon as enough chips have arrived from Japan, every local Onkyo service point will "repair" your unit for free. I haven't had time yet to bring my unit in, but plan to do so this week. I will report later. So, I recommend those guys in the US who have this problem to contact Onkyo again and tell them that Onkyo Germany does actually repair all the units. |
[Sep 11, 2002]
Jon Satya
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
None.
Weakness:
As stated in another review Onkyo customer support is very poor. This is an ok a/v receiver but in hindsight I wish I had never bought it. It now sits in my workshop powering radio shack speakers using FM only broadcasts. I only found out about the DD 5.1 audio dropouts after I purchased the unit. Onkyo will not replace the chip and blames Dolby Labs so I had to listen to all DirecTV DD 5.1 broadcasts in analog. Also many 797's have the poping/ticking sound which Onkyo will fix, so far mine has not had this problem. I am now using a Denon 3802 for my home theatre and am very pleased with it. Similar Products Used: Denon 3802 |
[Sep 05, 2002]
badak
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
Great sounds Great power Above average look Lots of input (you can connect any A/V equipment you have !)
Weakness:
None for the performance Can't set different speaker config for different input ( I have to switch the subs yes/no while using it for DVD/CD) A Great receiver, I compare it with Yamaha RX-V1200, 2200 and Denon 3802. I prefer the sound of Onkyo but for the appeareance I think the Yamaha is better. I use it for watching DVD and listening CD. I read about some problems with some audio or video format, but I find nothing in mine. My system consist of Pioneer 233, Nakamichi MB-10, B&W DM602S2, DM600S2, LCR 60, and Velodyne VLF810. For interconnect and speaker cables I use QED and Wireworld. Similar Products Used: Yamaha RX-V1200, 2200, Denon 3802 |