Onkyo TX-DS797 A/V Receivers
Onkyo TX-DS797 A/V Receivers
[Aug 27, 2002]
JacquesB
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
sound & features
Weakness:
services after sell Incredible sounds even in stereo. Its easy to program. a lots of features. nevertheless, i had a problem whit it.I part burned inside and it took 2 months to get the part. i use it whit the speakers serie connaissor 2002 of Energy : 2X C5; 2X C3; 2X CC1 and S10.2 as sub. The mix is explosive. Excuse my english, i'm french. Similar Products Used: yamaha |
[Jul 28, 2002]
Rkasprzak
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
None due to the seriousness of the Dolby Digital drop out problem.
Weakness:
Will not decode the majority od Dolby Digital movies broadcast by HBO. Poor customer service from Onkyo. Initially I was very pleased with the 797 with the exception of the problem with audio drop outs on a few Dolby Digital-EX titles. Since that time the problem with the intermittent drop outs has spread to the majority of movies broadcast in Dolby Digital 5.1 on HBO. Onkyo's response has basically been tough, it's not their problem. I have a Denon and a Carver C1000A that do not suffer from this problem. Similar Products Used: Denon 3802 Carver C1000A |
[Jul 20, 2002]
saigondatinh
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
Clean sound, no problem so far. GOT A GREAT PRICE for 740 new in box at online store 800videoaudio.com.
Weakness:
The front design is pretty ugly, as well as the color led display. I wish they hire some real thinkers nowadays Great product, full of features you can't find from sony / pioneer brands. Initially, i was going to get the discontinued product: sony str-de1075. However, knowing onkyo, I decided to invest a twice the cost of the sony to buy the tx-ds797. So far i love it! The feature i love the most is the volume minimize everytime you start it up, which is pretty neat. The hefty connections on the back are surely future proof! I do not like Onkyo's led's color, i think they would sell more if the led color were white or something like sony, instead of the ugly greenish blue. That's the one thing i hate about this receiver ! Similar Products Used: Sony , pionner, hk, |
[Jun 26, 2002]
mark_pdx
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
tons of processing modes tons of inputs good component video bandwidth great value, a couple hundred bucks cheaper than the denon.
Weakness:
programming the remote was a struggle at first i'm running everything off of it now. no on-screen display for component video, only for composite/S-video bass, treble, and subwoofer levels are hard to get at, you need to go into setup instead of just having a button/knob. My choice of A/V receivers boiled down to the Denon 3802 vs. the Onkyo 797. They both sound great and have similar features, in the end I went for the Onkyo for the 2 extra digital coax inputs and the extra bandwidth on the component video switch (50Mhz vs. 26 on the Denon) In my setup I regularly run 1080i HDTV through the component switch with no apparent attenuation or picture degradation. I am also driving a totem dreamcatcher 5.1 4ohm speaker setup quite comfortably with this amp. Also has a powered surround back if you want 6.1 I have not had problems with DTS yet. Similar Products Used: denon 3802, also shopped yamaha, H/K |
[Jun 12, 2002]
David Moses
AudioPhile
Strength:
Great sound! Very Flexible.
Weakness:
A Little week on the power side with higher end speakers The Onkyo DS797 is a Home Theatre Receiver with the power, flexibility and ease of use to satisfy just about everyone. Anyone who says that they have no need for Dolby ProLogic II just has not played with it enough. Every Pro Logic source ( ie video tapes ) will come to life. One of the things that bugs me about a lot of Receivers on the market today is the touting of Soundfields as an extra plus. I think that the true measure of a unit is how it sounds straight. I have been very happy with the sound from this receiver. Even powering Paradigm Studio 100's I am impressed. I will have to get a sepreate amp but not because it sounds like crap, just because I know how much better it could sound. One of the really cool things about the Onkyo is the ability to assign inputs to sources. So say you have an Xbox, DVD Player, Satellite and you get them hooked up. You can set each input to use the digital in that you hooked to. It is great for flexibility. The one thing that I do not like about Onkyo and CIRCUIT CITY is that when my unit started to click I had to send it away. 6 months old and I have to go for two weeks without a receiver. Does not sound right to me. CIRCUIT CITY did not care. The salesman had already got his comission and the Manager seemed to be pre occupied with trying to figure out how to spell "SACD", seems like he had just mastered "DIVX". Anyway the Receiver is well worth the money. Don't buy and extended warranty at CIRCUIT CITY. It is a waste of money. Similar Products Used: HK 3802, Sony ES3, Yamaha DAS-1 |
[May 29, 2002]
Stockexchange1
AudioPhile
Strength:
Power, THX Select, Dolby Digital, DTS, 3 digital inputs (optical or coaxial)
Weakness:
Manual and Remote Control It was a little complicated to setup the Onkyo, even for an Audiophile buff. I had to pull the manual to figure things out. Remote Control could be slim down. It is just too long. I spent a long time researching on my AV receiver. It finally came down to either the Denon 4802 or the Onkyo 797. I finally decided with the Onkyo because of its reputation and cost. I really didn't want to spend over $2,000 on my receiver. So far, I am very happy on the purchase. It has everything I needed THX select, Dolby Digital and DTS. I've tested my system with "Gladiator" and "Independence Day." The home theater receiver performs fantastic. The sound processor produces a vibrant sound on the special effects. When you play CD music on all channel stereo, it sounds great. Of course you also have to own high quality speakers. I also highly recommend M&K (Miller & Kreisel) speakers. Two thumbs for M&K. M&K have been delivering the highest levels of performance speakers to both consumers and professionals. Here are some studios who use M&K speakers: Dolby Laboratories, DreamWorks, DTS, Lucasfilm Ltd., Paramount, Sony, Universal Studios, Walt Disney Studios and Warner Brothers Studios. For me, I decided on the M&K K-Series. I wanted something that is not going to take a lot of room. My room is only 17 by 18 feet. My system consists of the follows: Mitsubishi WS-55819 HD Hughes HIRD-E86 Platinum HD Panasonic DVD-RV80 Sony C601ES 2 M&K K-5 left and right spkr 1 M&K K-7 center spkr 2 M&K K-4 tripole spkr 1 M&K V-75 MkII Similar Products Used: Denon AVR-4802 |
[May 28, 2002]
rsmcphee
AudioPhile
Strength:
Great features and home theater performance. Good PRO-Logic II Music and Unplugged version performance
Weakness:
Stereo quality is okay but far from spectacular but I listen to music using 5.1 PRO-Logic II so this is not an issue for me. When I was in the market for AV receiver my budget was about $1100. Since, I had done a lot of convincing with my wife prior to getting the approval for this investment, I really wanted to get the most out of the money. With that said, I really research all the AV receivers in this price range. I auditioned the following: Sony, Harman Kardon (AVR 32), Yamahas, and Onkyo. I decided that Onkyo won my business due to the reputation and features it offered for the cash. Before I get into this review, let me share the component that I have matched with this receiver. · AV Amplifier: Onkyo TXDS797 THX certified · DVD/CD/SACD Player: Sony DVP NC650V · Speakers: Wharfedale Pacific Center Channel, Wharfedale Pacific PI-40 Front Left/Right, and Wharfedale Pacific PI-10 rear surround channel. · Subwoofer: Sony 120 Watts Sub (model: SAWM40) Cable: All Monster Cable My room is about 35 feet by 25 feet so that drove me to go with receiver with more power in it. When I played SADE’s “Is It A Crime?” and “Jezabel” (with PRO-Logic II music format) the receiver conveyed the music with great detail and emotion. They are very convincing and would convince you that the singer is right in front of you singing with the aid of PRO-Logic II or Unplugged version. I believe that this is a wonderful bargain for the price. The sound quality for music is good. The home theater performance is fantastic. I played the movie Pearl Harbor and planes fly bys were realistic and the dialogues were clear. The bombing had me convince that my room was shaking. The sound stage was wide and dynamic. I watch movies 40% and play music 60% of the time. This receiver fits my needs perfectly. I look forward to having this for years and years. Similar Products Used: Sony, Harman Kardon, and Yamaha |
[May 13, 2002]
74fish
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
looks,matched my other onk stuff
Weakness:
I now must sell off remaining onk stuff.Hey onkyo,you are losing faithfull customers,does this make sense? As the review below says,sounds much better hooked to ext amp,any amp,the built in amps are surely lacking.And as far as glitches,most onkyo''''s have at least one or two,and I owned 3,never again! Similar Products Used: DENON 3802,first one,I''''m sold! |
[May 13, 2002]
perfecto
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
Reproduces with surgical precision. Latest surround modes (Prologic II, DTS-ES), THX select certification, power amp for surround back, and 192khz DACs. Intuitive and versatile learning remote. Can be fully operated from front panel.
Weakness:
None. This is a great receiver. Reproduces with surgical precision. Onkyo is among the first to offer the latest in surround modes (Prologic II, DTS-ES), THX select certification, power amp for surround back, and 192khz DACs for a moderate price. In addition the unit includes an intuitive and versatile learning remote. In fact this receiver is so precise and low key both visually and sonically that one forgets that it is there. For best results, I recommend using a separate amplifier for at least the center and front channels. While stand alone sound is clearly on par to most receivers in its price category, the superior quality of the digital processing is better appreciated with a separate amp. I have used it stand alone for two months and then invited a hi-fi specialist to review my system and recommend improvements. My hookup includes Infinity Composition II, Infinity Center, Infinity QPSII and a Klipsch LF10 sub. He immediately recommended the addition of a separate amp. I added a Parasound HCA-855 amplifier keeping the ONKYO as pre-amp. The results are stupendous. The stage became precise and spacious. The bass is incredibly tight. For those of you already in Heaven, here is a moderate addition that will greatly enhance your enjoyment. One note to prospective buyers. Early production batches of the 797 had an IC which begins to produce a clicking noise after the first few months of operation, as pointed out in other reviews. The problem is easily fixed under warranty by replacing that IC. ONKYO has promptly rectified this production problem. If you are purchasing a new 797 make sure that it belongs to a good production batch. Date of production is a good indication, but in addition you can contact ONKYO with the serial number of the unit that you intend to buy to verify that fact. If you already have the 797 and your unit develops this problem, make sure to tell the service center to contact ONKYO. The technicians of my repair center (ONKYO certified) did not know about the problem and failed to diagnose it twice. ONKYO has issued a circular to the service centers explaining this subtle problem and how to resolve it. Not all of them, however, are aware of it. Subtle problems of this kind are certainly annoying but are also a sign that the company is trying to push the boundaries of what is possible to set new standards for others to match. This Similar Products Used: Kenwood VR-2090, Pioneer Elite VX-27 |
[May 04, 2002]
Wesley Hester
Audio Enthusiast
I agree with all of the positive reviews here. I love my 797, for now, because so far it is working fine. However, I personally can not recommend this receiver to others for two major reasons. The first reason has to do with random audio dropouts while playing certain DVD titles. These titles include (as of 5/4/02): Beastmaster (DD-EX/DTS-ES), Jurassic Park III (DD-EX/DTS-ES), Pearl Harbor (DD/DTS) and Disney’s Atlantis (DD-EX/DTS-ES): The Lost Empire. This has been a known issue since November 2001. Onkyo promptly posted a statement regarding this issue on their website. The audio dropouts are caused by the interaction of the Onkyo’s audio decoder (not made by Onkyo), which does in fact have a bug/design flaw, and new flags made available through a software revision to Dolby encoders. When the producers of the said DVD titles above used these new flags (a “flag” is like a message or instruction), the 797’s faulty decoder “resets” so to speak as it would when you first switch sources from say DTS to Dolby Digital. This “reset” mutes the sound to all channels – which is normal. Muting the sound randomly during a movie is NOT normal. This sequence of: DVD flag-to-receiver decoder; decoder muting sound and changing decoding format; sound level restored and newly selected format played should only happen once at the start of a movie, source selection change or from the user switching audio tracks from a menu AFTER a DVD starts. It should not happen DURING a DVD movie. All four discs mentioned above played fine in the 787. Why? Because the 787 doesn’t have a faulty chip and thus allows the new flags (produced well after the 787’s introduction) to “pass through” by simply ignoring them completely. Dolby Labs has stated they are aware of the conflict between some new decoders and new flags and have notified DVD and TV producers. However, Onkyo’s response has been to put the blame more so on Dolby and not the producer of the faulty decoder and themselves for using it. Which basically means Onkyo is trying hard (and seems to have succeeded) to avoid a recall which I feel should have happened. Keep in mind, most other new receivers with “new” decoders can in fact properly detect and respond to the new flags as they were originally meant to do. So far only the four discs above have been affected. True, all of them have DTS tracks (Atlantis being the exception: n |