Pioneer SX-1250 Receivers
Pioneer SX-1250 Receivers
[Oct 16, 2010]
sescds
AudioPhile
Last week I picked up an SX-1250. My brother had a mint condition one and I have generally been a Sansui man, but I still had a yearning for a bix SX. Well thanks to Craigslist, I found one nearby. It didn't work and it was filthy and crappy looking. I ended up paying $160 for it, but I wanted the challenge. Soon I discovered it needed 3 main filter caps, so I decided to recap the entire unit. I changed out the main filter caps with 4 new 80V 35,000UF Cornell Dublers and got the rest of the caps from Digi-key. I completely disassembled the unit, painted the heat sinks, top cover, bottom cover, refinished the wood case and did the recap job. cleaned all knobs, switches and controls (pots), and adjusted the center of tuning meter. After a box of q-tips and using a toothbrush and rags and just about anything I could find small to clean out all the nook and cranny's , it became a clean respectable unit. Best of all, after powering it up, and with no bench equiptment to adjust it with, it came back to life after what I suspect was many years of sitting as a door stop. I'm preforming the "burn-in" of the unit now, and I couldn't be happier with it, even though I have slightly over $300 total investment in it now. I hope it lasts for another 30 years! |
[Dec 19, 2009]
Allen
AudioPhile
My score is the average as of this date, 4.84. Close enough to it. The unit is very heavy. It is large and solidly built. The amplifier is sweet, smooth, crisp and powerful. The switches have a distinctly good feel of quality. The flywheel tuning does just that, with one turn, the slide rule covers the entire tuning dial. The amp sounds like a powerful tube amp. The FM tuner is excellent. I suspect that many of these units have a slight tuning calibration problem. I have never used the AM section. I own two of these and use them daily. The two units have differences, for example only one of the units has a flying flywheel! The other one has a regular, slightly less enthusiastic response. I believe that many of these units have been rebuilt over the years which accounts for the variations between the two I own. My overall feeling about the SX-1250 is that it is about as good as I am willing to spend and still enjoy what I consider to be perfect quality musical sound. The purity and clarity of the amplifier makes all of my components sound so much better than the many other systems I own and use every day. I own and use enough other stuff that I can make somewhat of a comparison. To summarize, I like this product because it is rock solidly built, heavy-duty, powerful, sweet-sounding and actually, it is a good looking product. This is my favorite overall audio component. That is quite a compliment! |
[May 07, 2009]
steve
Audio Enthusiast
I just hooked up my old SX 1250 to some ESS AMT1a speakers and I had forgotten how god they sound together. Juggling the tone controls with loudness switch this combo is really sweet. I had considered buying new stuff, that is now an after thought. I'll stick with what I have, both amp and speakers are solid. |
[Dec 09, 2008]
5Hero
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
The high watermark of Japanese audio engineering, lashings of brushed aluminium, real glass and real walnut veneer. Imposing but understated looks, soft lit white tuning meters and amber indicator lamps look great against the aluminium and walnut case. All controls and switches feel quality, spin the tuning knob and the dial silently glides right accross the scale...try doing this on a mid 80's one.
Weakness:
Seriously heavy (35kg, 75lb), seriously large (if you judge that a weakness).
Similar Products Used: Pioneer SA-9500
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[Oct 27, 2006]
Tim Alanthwaite
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
Magnificent build and sound quality. Gorgeous anachronistic looks.
Weakness:
Cannot match the best of modern equipment in some areas, but I'm comparing it to the audiophile greats, which isn't fair. I have to smile at the price most of you guys have paid for the Pioneer. The price I mention was in 1976 pounds sterling, when my hourly wage £0.30! Now as then I'm serious about my kit, and have it hooked up to Mission Pilastros, which it drives very well. My speaker cable cost me ten times as much as the receiver in money terms, therefore you can see I rate this beautifully built receiver very highly. |
[Sep 11, 2006]
nolaguy
Casual Listener
Strength:
Great sound, loads of features
Weakness:
Weighs a ton, what do you set this on? I just purchased this receiver at a garage sale this past weekend for $30. The guy who sold it to me used it as a PA when he worked as a DJ. I lost my old stereo in Hurricane Katrina last year and I have just recently got settled in my new city. I don't speakers yet, but I have decnt headphones. It plays great at low volume ( I am not comfortable cranking it up as I live in an apartment now). The FM comews in clear even without antennae. Judging from the other posts, it seems I got a pretty good bargain. I would like to have it cleaned, as it was very used. Any ideas where I could send it? Similar Products Used: Nothing I ever had compares. |
[Jul 21, 2006]
Petelite
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
Umm... 200 watts per channel at four ohms? Beautiful.
Weakness:
None. This is the best amplifier I have ever owned. Everything about it is fantastic, from its superior sound quality to its aluminum face and walnut case to its giant cooling fins that help heat my room in the winter. I don't know who decided to throw it away, but I'm glad they did because I never would have gotten it. It isn't in $300 dollar condition, but it works fine. I would never part with it. Well... I would probably sell it for $500... Customer Service It's 30 years old, I doubt I could get any customer service on such a thing... Similar Products Used: Marantz, Pioneer, NAD |
[Apr 28, 2006]
cmoor
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
Sound, appearance
Weakness:
None Was finishing up a cabinet job at a customer's house as they were moving in. Noticed this 1250 sitting on the floor and asked them what they were gonna do with it. She said, "Oh, we don't use that, it's too big to put anywhere. We'll just stick it in a cabinet somewhere. So when I asked if she wanted to sell it, she told me no, that I could just take it. God bless her. She must've really liked her cabinets; best bonus I've ever received.
Similar Products Used: Sansui G9000, Kenwood |
[Jun 13, 2004]
jackz4000
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
None. Excellent for all music. Powerful and clean. Sound is definitely in the McIntosh style.
Weakness:
Well, 65 lbs, but not a weakness to me. Better speaker terminals, but I have no problem using 14 gauge speaker cable. Being 27 years old, I logically expect some problem to arise at some point, which is why I bought 2....1 is a spare. Can't think of another weakness. A work of art. Pioneer's Top of the Line back in 76 to 78 with a high quality build both outside and inside. There was no scrimping on quality here. Attention paid to every little detail. Start with its 22" long brushed aluminium face with precision made controls and a well designed layout. User friendly. It has a real walnut case on the front half and the rear top half has a metal ventilation grille on top. That same rear half has massive wraparound heatsinks (2) which are each almost 12 inches in length and help dissapate the heat. This unit sucks a minimium of 650 to 1200 watts from your AC plug. High current performance. The interior is precision and power plus. Produced as their TOTL during the "receiver wars" it's performance was a source of company pride and Japanese engineering. It sports 5 FET's, 6 IC's, 60 Diodes and 82 transistors. It's massive toroidal power transformer is round and 6" in diameter and nearly 8" high and is flanked by 4 22,000uF capacitors...each the size of a can of Coke. The sound produced is deep rich and enveloping. Price? These are one of the best kept secrets in audio and I believe the best bang for the buck in its category. I got 2 for $500 in perfect condition. I prefer to listen to music in stereo, so for me this was an excellent choice. The 160 RMS per channel is more than enough power for me. However, if you need more power the 1250 has pre ins/outs and you can hook up another amp. One can get better sound. But definitely not for the $250 I paid for each of my 2. Try $3000 or $5000 and Krell, Levinson, Bryston, Marantz or McIntosh. So great audio performance for a budget price. They don't make them like this anymore and they only did for a few years. You can't go wrong. Note: Unless you are a tech or have a good one handy---Don't buy a beat-up one for cheap...it will only cost you more. Parts are rare and pricey. And labor. Typically, on Ebay an excellent one goes for about $450...sometimes $350. Myself, I had a lucky week on Ebay. Expect to pay at least $350 each, although I have seen "mint" ones sell for $1000. There will be a moment of regret. That will be when you lift all 65 lbs of it. It's worth the workout. Your impression of its performance will vary according to the quality of the equipment you have had and/or heard. Someone who has not heard power like this will be amazed, while one with more sonic experience will be merely very happy with the price/performance ratio. From those "receiver wars" there are about 5 other receivers which are also in the same league. My preferance was the SX 1250. Similar Products Used: Marantz, McIntosh, Levinson, Adcom, Pioneer. |
[May 19, 2004]
pocketchange
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
A reciever that has value, IF you should decide to sell.
Weakness:
It weighs 64lbs. It uses 650/1500 watts from idle to flat out (which WILL get the cops to your door and it will heat up your place in the wintertime when your heater quits... is that a weakness?). And, it will need a tuneup every few years to maintain peak performance. I spite of being almost 3 decades old (since 76') and being to the local Pioneer (journeyman) tech a few times, I have not found a better reciever or I would have bought it. Getting a PS Ultimate Outlet and some improved ICs added to the front and rear brought me into this century. If you can locate one of these old monsters and have access to a tech that knows his stuff, get one, you will not be disappointed and you will be drawing Social Security looking at the current mix of black boxes with admiration for the 70s gear when HiFi was at the top of its game. The SX1250/80 was the LAST of high power/quality recievers (IMO). Similar Products Used: Danaco 70 (I wish I still had it). |