Great cable for the price

Could not get them to work as spec'ed on my system

I have to partially recant, but not for the reasoning in

Although I am a man, my hearing has been tested to beyond 20000 hz. I hear things differently from you people.


1)I recently upgraded my system substituting a Monarchy 33 for the DAC and pre-amp and the differences between cables are much less evident.

2)I use DHLabs TC-14 speaker cable.

3) My point about the Radio Shack was misunderstood. On an 'average' system, they probably will make a positive difference.

4) Nobody has been sufficiently able to explain to me ( I have read many engineering articles) why cables should make such a difference in the overall sound quality.

5) If I retested, on this system, I would probably get a much more favorable impression of this cable.

6) I experienced the worst sound with certain speakers, which shall remain anonymous. With these speakers, the Goertz cable made the sound quality unbearable, worse than a 1950s 45 rpm record player. I was both shocked and disbelieving that a cable could cause such an enormous difference.

7) The ratings are still too high, since I'm pointing out potential problems. I've experienced sonic anomalies with all of the 'oddball' geometry cables.

8) People who rate themselves as audiophiles are very humorless. That's why I enjoy the negative feedback I'm getting about an innocent, negative review.

9) These reviews are entirely SUBJECTIVE. My anecdote about the Japanese speakers illustrates TOTALLY how entirely subjective the entire audio review process actually is. All people see, hear and taste differently. What is missing from any of the audio reviews, in general, a good epistemological foundation. It's impossible to quantify and evaluate and ideal of what is beautiful sound.

10) I rated these cables less than I would normally to bring the average rating more into line. I am now rating them up to bring my average more into line.

11) The guy I sold them to loves this cable. He is using ATI-1502s and they sound fabulous in his system. He says that he's heard them and used them before. I told him my misgivings and he wasn't deterred in the least. I appreciate his understanding.

12) This is the only hi-end product that I've reviewed negatively.

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DHLabs TC-14, Kimber 4TC

I have found these cables to be my all time favorite.

Sorry, I listened, but couldnt find any.

I am enthralled with these cables, had a pair sold them, had deep regret, found another pair, and wont make the same mistake twice. thanks all folks...

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MIT, Kimber, et all.

I sold them quickly

Too many untruthful, good reviews about them.

Drew, who must be getting money from Bridgeport-based Alpa-Core to respond, claims that my equipment was Radio-Shack. I was using:

Monarchy SM-70 pros
Kimber KCAG interconnect cable
XLO Signature digital cable
Von Schweikert VR4s
Monarchy 22b DAC
Theta Data Basic CD transport

Sound Quality: Almost all the respondents to reviews for Goertz cables are MALE. It is a well-known fact that men do not hear high-frequencies as well as women. I happen to have extremely good, high-frequency, hearing; hence, any device that would affect the quality of the upper octaves, would cause me to have convulsions of audio nausea.

Anecdote: In the sixties and seventies, the Japanese solely used women to audition and criticize the sound of their speakers. This was ‘women’s work’. Unfortunately, US men did not like the sound of the Japanese speakers and they became known as ‘great speakers for Japanese women’. To my tastes, the Japanese speakers, particularly the more-expensive Pioneers, had a great high end, very delicate and sweet.

Where's your Radio Shack, Beverly Hills? This comment reflects the bigotry of the Hi-end world: if you don't spend giga-bucks for equipment and cables, you don't have crap. This is nonsense. Monarchy has been proving that you don't have to spend wheelbarrow of money to get the best sound, regardless of price. It just happens that Goertz speaker cable does not fit into the complex parameters of the Monarchy equation.

Drew’s argument about Radio Shack equipment would play out like this at Alpha Core, if it were true:

Mktr: Radio Shack sells more stereos than Monarchy, ATI, Parasound, McIntosh and
Mark Levinson combined. What should we do about this segment?

Eng: Let's make a cable that sounds like horse manure with their equipment.

Mktr: Great, then we can lose this giant market share and gratify our own 'juvenile weltzschmerz', rather than making some 'ugh', disgusting money.

This shows the speciousness of Drew’s argument. Of course, the cable was tested with Radio Shack equipment. They’d be pretty silly if they didn’t.

I suspect the Monarchy amplifier design constraints cause a problem with low impedance speaker wire.

Drew, however, has tin ears. I have almost perfect pitch.
These cables WOULD sound better with Radio-Shack equipment, but in the hi-end world, they don't hack it, regardless of price.

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DHLabs Silver Sonic, Kimber 8TC

Tensile

Looks like a copperhead squished by a semi, but doesn't sound as good.

I now know what Quasimodo must have felt like his first day on the job. I tried to listened this on four different occasions, but could never take more than two hours worth at any one sitting. I prayed to God for guidance, but could never bring myself to like this cable.

Sound Quality: An old, grade school buddy of mine, Arlen Posekany, used to run his fingernails over the black board after school to obtain roughly the same audible etchings, but the sound there was a little more thrilling.

These cables have excellent detail, but flatten the sound stage to the point that its quality is like that of a shadow play. Violins retain the sweet, bowing sibilance, but the tone is slightly sour. A harpsicord sounds like someone is picking bedsprings with a hook. And the worst part is that these instruments take center stage when they should be a part of the larger passage.

Audience: Audio masochists anywhere; sadists if they invite their friends over to listen.

Needs: Very needy; tone controls on the pre-amp are a must

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Chicken wire, Home Depot lamp code AWG 22, Circuit City Standard

Soundstaging, imaging, speed, tonal characteristics

Slight attentuation of deep bass (maybe....)

Paul M needs to replace his Radio Shack receiver with
some highend components.

These cables are a price-point standard bearer. They
offer excellent imaging, expansive soundstaging beyond
the outer edges of the speakers, three-dimensionality,
luscious midrange, clean highs. I don't think there is
a cable at this price which can equal the MI2. The only
shortcoming may be a > rolloff in the deep bass.

Buy 'em and enjoy 'em.

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Kimber 8TC, MIT 750, Monster M1

They don't cook dinner for you? Are revealing, so if your system has flaws. . .

My entire system is still pretty new and these are the first real speaker cables I have purchased, so there may be better cables out there, but for true biwiring (separate cables for treble and bass) I think the price is pretty reasonable and when I installed them I noticed a difference out of the box. Since I bought these cables my system has had time to mature and burn in more and as far as I can tell I hear what's there, which is what cables are supposed to do. Someday it would be interesting to compare w/some other cables but I doubt I'll hear much difference. The biwiring really helped bring out the bass and of course lets you circumvent the speaker's crossover. My system:

Martin Logan Ascents (biwired)
Alphacore Goertz MI2
Rotel RX975
Sony DVP 9000ES
NAD 521 (as transport for CD-Rs)
MSBIII DAC w/upsampling
BetterCables.com 75ohm digital audio cable
TMC Yellow label interconnects

Rather than pay $1000 plus for some other name brand I recommend these cables, esp. w/the free trial.

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Plain old copper wire

Performance to dollar ratio that is off the charts

Absolutely none at this price

I work in the audio bizz as a system designer and installer and have been at it for quite some time.Along the way I've learned a thing or two.High price does not mean high performance.I know the ins and outs of so called system synergy and believe in it for the most part.Let me put it plainly.There are no cables that can do what these can do at anywhere near the price.I don't care what kind of componets you've got, if you're looking for great cables and don't want to spend needlessly(who does?) look no further.If you plug 'em in and hear that you're not getting enough of this or too much of that,DO NOT BLAME THEM ON THE FREAKING CABLE! There is obviously a problem elsewhere in your system.Now if your amp starts to oscillate uncontrollably, that's another story, but that is nearly one in a million. This is my current system:
Sonic Frontiers Line 2 Preamp
Muse model 160 amp
Camelot Merlin Transport
Two Monarchy DIPS piggy backed
Perpetual Technology P1A and P3A
Dual CS5000 w/RB600 tonearm and Dynavector cartridge
Sonic Frontiers Phono preamp
B&W Nautilus 802 speakers

I plugged them in when I returned from the Chi-town show for sh@ts and giggles and soon stopped laughing.The only thing my Black Silk Does better is that the backround is blacker(no pun intended) and hence, the illusion that things are somehow more dymamic. Now compare the price of these two cables and you'll understand why I'm so impressed. What so impressed me was the way instruments seemed to decay more naturally, and in their own time and place. Take my word, if you plug them in and things don't seem to sound good,seriously consider what could be wrong elsewhere.

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MIT Term.2-Levinson-Monster cable-Straight Wire Black Silk

The last review by "Stewart" is a fraud. AA doesn't even carry Goertz. Veracity is a fine cable with surprising detail and good bass. Burns in in minutes and priced hundreds below competitive products. I've seen RS Megacable - at the store it was already corroding beneath its insulation. Sounds it, too. You're better off buying from Home Depot off the bulk spools than buying Megacable.

Clean bass

Mid range glare

A very good cable that presents the following pluses:
1. very fast, tight bass. Faster than the Super Biwire, which costs about 5 times more.
2. revealing and clean top end
3. affordable
4. conveniently coils up and saves space in installation
the minuses:
1. connectors could be a little nicer. Silver spades are fine, but the rhodium banana plugs feel unsubstantial.
2. midrange is not as smooth as what I am used to with the Super Biwire from Transparent (perhaps it is the Transparent's low pass filter aka network box?)
3. holographic imaging is a little flatter than the Super Biwire, but became subjectively better after 2 weeks of listening.
Overall, five stars in its price class as a great value. Faster and more lively bass but not as sweet on the top end as the Transparent Super...but is it a valid comparison between two products with such different prices?
The final opinion: I would buy it again, but certainly it is not the greatest sounding cable ever made as proclaimed in some circles like RAHE. The company has a great policy of auditioning this product in your home. I would recommend taking advantage of it.

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Transparent Audio Super Biwire

I have been for a long time influenced by the audio magazines , this led me to many mistakes in the choice of my equipment , and cables , I bought many models of cables from NORDOST , and was always not happy , there was something missing , a freind of mine recommended me to try Goertz cables , and he gave me a pair of MI -2 ,Yes , it is simple , this cable was damne good for the price , it was the real upgrade of my system for this year , but the irony is that Goertz was sheaper than my existing cables , and by the way it seems that this cable has got good reveiws in almost every audio magazine , hey NORDOST looks nice , good for decoration . !!!!!!!