B.I.C. America DV62CLR Center Channels
B.I.C. America DV62CLR Center Channels
[Oct 21, 2003]
BeFree
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
Excellent bargain.
Weakness:
Build quality is average. I've had this center channel speaker for about six months now, and I haven't heard a better center channel at any price. I did lots of research before deciding to purchase this BIC. I had never heard of the company, but decided to take a chance and buy it. But it wasn't much of a risk because the speaker cost only $99! Once I hooked it up, it blew away the Yamaha center channel that I had. Recently, I upgraded the speaker wire (Canare) and now I'm hearing even more detail. Even though I use it only for HT, it's great for music as well. I have it matched with Polk Rti38s in the front. Don't be fooled into buying brand name speakers. If you do your research, you'll find plenty of bargains like this BIC with equally good quality sound. Similar Products Used: Yamaha, Denon, Polk. |
[Oct 06, 2003]
orbhot
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
Awesome tweeter is very crisp but not harsh.
Weakness:
Giant cabinet (22 inches wide) makes it hard to place. Going from a magazine review that said "best sounding center channel at any price" I'd have to agree. After about an hour of searching for this center I found that, even after adding the $19 shipping charge, www.acousticsounddesign.com had the lowest price. Some sites are selling this center for over $200! Similar Products Used: DCM, JBL, Sony |
[Aug 12, 2003]
Thanh
Casual Listener
Strength:
Good sound, well built and inexpensive.
Weakness:
none I compared the BIC DV62 CLR-S with my front speakers Infinity RSe side by side. The BIC speaker sounds as good as the Infinity. I will buy two more to use as the front speakers of my HT sound system and move the Infinity speakers to the living room. Similar Products Used: Infinity RSe JBL surround spk Harman Kardon 12" Sub. |
[Jul 02, 2003]
TDK
Audio Enthusiast
I tried a few more center speakers before BIC but to me this is the best that I came across so far. I bought the "old" 62CLR version (25" wide) for $90 including sipping, what a steal!!!! Very happy with it |
[Jul 02, 2003]
TDK
Audio Enthusiast
I tried a few more center speakers before BIC but to me this is the best that I came across so far. I bought the "old" 62CLR version (25" wide) for $90 including sipping, what a steal!!!! Very happy with it |
[Apr 01, 2003]
GTX_SlotCar
AudioPhile
Strength:
Price. Sound is dynamic, detailed, airy and transparent.
Weakness:
Imaging is above average and very good, but not great. I'd like to see a nice rosewood veneer. Long break-in period. They are not furniture quality cabinets like expensive speakers. For what it's worth, the description at the top of the page is wrong. The DV62 CLR-S has 6 1/2 inch woofers, not 5 1/4. First, this speaker sounds great just the way it is, but you do have to give it time to break-in. 60 to 100 hours is my guess. In my opinion, there is a lot of misleading information on here about this speaker. A lot of it has to do with psycho-acoustics (that's when any modification you do makes it sound better to you). I'd like to dispel the myth that stuffing the cabinet with acoustic poly fill will stop a speaker enclosure from booming or resonating. That's not it's primary design. If you want to stop a speaker from resonating, you should use a thicker cabinet material or use internal bracing. These BIC speakers are made with 1/2" MDF which should be plenty for a cabinet this size. If you think the speaker is resonating while it's sitting on top of your TV, the sound is probably coming from the TV cabinet. A hollow, thin plastic box is not the best place to put a speaker. Speaker cabinets are engineered to have a volume that works with the drivers. Acoustic poly fill is added to decease sound reflections inside the cabinet, usually, but not always, on 3 sides. Adding poly fill has the effect of increasing the internal volume of the cabinet, so the cabinet is engineered to accommodate this. In other words, if the cabinet size called for (with a certain driver) is 1 cubic foot, the cabinet may actually be .9 cubic feet and a specific amount of poly fill added to make up the difference. If you simply stuff these cabinets with poly fill, you are totally changing the effective volume of the cabinet, in effect, un-engineering them. You also have to be careful not to block the tuned ports. If you don't know how to tune the enclosures to the resonant frequency of the drivers (or don't even know what I'm talking about), don't stuff the BIC's with acoustic poly-fill. I'm sure that the people who have done this will swear that the speaker sounds better, but psycho-acoustics is very real and very hard to overcome. I have 3 of these speakers making up all the fronts in my HT system. I bought one and was impressed with it so I bought 2 more. I had the first one modified with Ed Frias' crossover. When I emailed Ed to get information about it, I found him to be personable and knowledgeable. When I received the EFE modified crossover, I really liked the sound. However, after a few days I did a blind listening test with the help of my daughter. The standard and EFE BIC's where side by side and all she had to do was change the positive wire from one to the next. I listened to several musical passages with my eyes closed and, surprisingly, picked the standard BIC as sounded better, not just a majority of the time, but every time. One of the most charming things about these speakers is their airy, transparent quality. With the EFE modification, this was diminished. I'm not saying the EFE mod doesn't sound good. It does and it may be just the thing for you, but for me the compromise was too much. Later, I did a performed a similar test on a friend who works in a high end Hi-Fi store and later still, with a group of salespeople at their store. These tests were 2 fold. First to get their opinion of the standard speaker (logos were covered with tape so they didn't know what they were listening to) and then to compare 3 different versions (standard, EFE and a modification I had done). They all praised the BIC, and when listening to the various crossovers they all picked the standard as sounding the best. Remember, they had no idea which speaker was which, or even what the speakers were. I've read reviews with comments about the EFE crossover as decreasing it's brightness (it does) and others saying it increased the highs. Obviously, it can't do both. I spent a year trying to make these speakers sound better and you can read about it here: www.slottweak.com/bic/bic.htm |
[Mar 14, 2003]
race20
Casual Listener
Strength:
Around good sound seems to have more bass than my JBL N
Weakness:
none at this price Did not like the speaker out of the box. I put it to the side and went back with my JBL center. Then I sent crossover to EFE for mod and I stuffed the box with a pound of acoustic fluff from partsexpress. I am happy with the sound now and the JBL is now put to the side. Similar Products Used: JBL N Center |
[Feb 07, 2003]
reveillee
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
build, clear sound(after modification), sharp looking, and definitely price.
Weakness:
hollow and low toned (no treble) before modification but that's it. All I have to say is that if you plan on buying this center channel speaker, only do so if you are going to have it modified by Ed Frias. It sounds like a 6 on a scale of 1 to 10 before modification and a 10 after the modification!!! I can't imagine any center channel speaker sounding much better than after the modification. At first I was a skeptic b/c I just started getting into home theater and I'm a almost broke college student. I thought, hey it has to sound pretty good w/o the modification and I don't normally mess around with taking out crossovers and the like. I got the speaker and the build and look was GREAT! It just sounded low toned and a little hollow. I took out the crossover, which was fast and easy and sent it to him and now I want everything to be modified by him. I sent out the crossover out on Saturday and got it back on Thursday. And I live in MO and he lives in CA! Don't buy the speaker unless you get the modification. You can also buy the speaker straight from him already modified, you won't be dissapointed for the money. Similar Products Used: After modification it is similar to any speaker channel that is reputable. |
[Jan 23, 2003]
Stack
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
sounds pretty darn good out of the box and matches my nearly vintage polk fronts seamlessly.
Weakness:
Just a tad hollow sounding but some polyfill should take care of it. What can I say that hasn't already been said about this center? Out of the box it is great, just a wee bit "hollow" sounding. I plan to add some baffle and possibly have the crossovers tweaked but it is pretty darn good out of the box. I purchased this due to the reviews it got here and elsewhere. My problem was that I have Polk SDA1A fronts with ferrofluid cooled silver coil tweeters and finding a center to match my nearly 20 year old fronts was becoming an impossible chore. I have been using a 8 year old BIC V52 for the front, I tried a yamaha, polk, and bose but nothing matched very well. The ferrofluid cooled tweeter in the BIC matches better than I could ever hope for. And for the money you simply cant beat this center. Similar Products Used: polk, yamaha, bose, bic. |
[Oct 10, 2002]
racer-x
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
After modification: 1. An absolute pleasure to listen to. 2. Great build quality & drivers. 3. As some have said before - Silly price! I would have paid much more. 4. Nice size & weight, impressive.
Weakness:
None, not now. I am not an AudioPhile, nor do I possess an AudioPhile's lexicon, but I know what sounds good to me, and I must say I was somewhat disappointed when I first listened to my new DV62CLRs. As others have mentioned before me, the current "s" version is not the same speaker as its predecessor, the larger, non-"s" model. To me, this new version sounds a bit harsh and "canny" at times, especially during the louder voice tracks of a good movie. As others before me have mentioned, I too sent a crossover to EFE Technology for modification by Mr. Ed Frias. Not wanting to go without a center channel for a week I simply bought another crossover from B.I.C. America (now I have an extra). This also allowed me to make quick comparison between the two crossovers and their effect on the drivers without running the risk of "forgetting" how the speaker sounded after a week had past if I had sent EFE my original crossover. If you know how to operate a pair of needle nose pliers and a screwdriver, the exchange of crossovers is a simple matter and takes less than 10 minutes to complete - Mr. Frias provides clear instructions for the process. With the transformation complete, and after making side by side comparisons between the crossovers with over a dozen of my favorite DVD's and several Dish Network programs, the EFE Technology modified crossover won Hands-Down! No other modifications are necessary to the DV62CLRs as far as I'm concerned, and now, I am completely satisfied with my purchase. Gone are all the qualities that once annoyed my ears so much. I now I have a center channel that is a pleasure to listen to, sounds "natural," and that I expect will last for many years to come. For my meager investment, this speaker is now a steal! I strongly recommend this speaker with the EFE Technology modified crossover to anyone. You can contact Mr. Frias directly at EFESPKRS@AOL.COM, or (760)741-6525. Similar Products Used: JBL |