Slim Size with built-in subwoofer. Deep bass.

Grill cloth is not removable.

Compare to AR315 and Mirage OM6, they are all good speakers. The price of Del teh system works out little better. Driven by Yamaha RXV795, I use BP6B as surround since the price is close to BPX. I chose C/L/R2002 as centre because there is no C/L/R2004 and I dislike the C1000B. This model seems to be designed for the surround of the BP3000.
Excellent bass for home theatre. You can get as much bass as you want. The whole house is shaky. You can feel the deep low frequency 18 Hz rather than hearing it. Additional subwoofer is absolute unnecessary.
The whole system reproduces superb sound for movie and crystal clear sound for music too.

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Nice highs

A little weak on the bass, i would recommend another powered sub to go along with this set

BP2002 VS BP2004

BP2002 has enough bass and more spacious highs, also the soundstage is more pronounced. In the BP2004's the bass sounds higher, caused by less frequency response, and does not sound as full. The highs sounds about the same as the 2002. If you do not need too much bass, the 2004 is enough but if you like the low stuff, i recommend the 2004 with a seperate powered sub or the 2002 speakers.

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Definitive Tech BP2002

Incredible range and bass- and they look great in any room

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Awesome speakers with incredible built-in sub-woofer.They look great too. I just couldnt believe the difference between these and the 'common' spkrs, like bose/advent/polk/etc. These truly are 'Definitive'. I wish I could afford Def Tech Home theatre system, because I'm very impressed with their products. My DT's are in use with a Onkyo Integra system.

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Reviewed/listened to many products, and these just blew them away!

I have had a hunger to purchase a set of speakers for the past 4 years, but in every case the type of speaker that I desired always cost too much for my budget. The speaker needed to pass what I considered a simple test and that is to have the ability to performed with clairity and wide imaging at both low and high frequencys and volumes.
I recently visited a very large audio store in Minneapolis MN called Audio King. I listened to every brand and size that they had to offer. (and they offer alot of speakers). In my basic test I used only one song and asked the salesman to computer dial in each speaker using the same high quality player and reciever.

It is a simple test that any person can do. For me it clearly seperated the BP2004s from the others. As a matter of fact, I asked that the volume be set higher that normal, and then I personally cranked the bass (on the speakers) to maxium. What I found is that the bass did not become muddy or boomy, but maintained their full imaging.

These speakers have a built in 125 watt bass amplifier and are clearly sufficent for anyone who desires excellent performance in a small foot print. I personally believe that the bipolar design aids in their performance and I plan on buying 2 more of these this christmas.

Nobody can convince you to buy these speakers, all I can recommend is that you give these a listening too and you will agree with me that they are will worth their money.

Detailed mids and highs, moderately powerful bass.

Detail in bass, blending between midrange/midbass and sub-bass

I listened to these speakers, among many others, in my quest to fill my home with the kind of quality sound that is in my car stereo.

Home audio, unlike car audio, is a new frontier for me. So I set off with little prejudice, looking for a pair or speakers in the $1500-$2500 price range. I auditioned the Def's at Audio/Video, where I found the staff to be knowledgable, patient, and relaxed. I listened to these for a good while with various types of music. The highs are mids were well defined as well as the imgaing. My only complaints were the lack of width in the soundstage and, the quality of the bass. While a built in subwoofer is nice, it seemed as though it was an afterthought, with its sound ostracized from its higher frequency companions. It had a powerful punch, suitable maybe for heavy metal or rock (which I have nothing against), but the lack in detail was prevalent when listening to acoustic instruments or complex bass passages. The subs seemed to lack the control to produce low frequencies with the clarity needed for that truly convincing sound. All things considered, at a price tag of $1600 they were far from bad. They were actually a serious consideration in that, on a college-student budget I was not looking to spend 5 to 6 thousand on front speakers alone.

My final decision was with the Dynaudio Audience 82's ($2400 MSRP), which I have also posted a review for. If you are considering buying a pair of the Def's, or something in a similar price range, I implore you to read on.

After listening to the 82's I began to notice how much I was ignoring the things I disliked. The 82's, while having a small profile, produced bass much better than the Def's. They use a pair of 8" drivers in a front-ported, braced, chamber. I was a little hesitant before hearing them, as it matters not how well a speaker is built, physics will always prevail when trying to get high volume, and low frequencies out of small drivers. To my amazement, the 82's sounded far larger than there were, with powerful bass, low entension, seamless blending with the midbass/midrange, and an enclosure that anything but revealing. The detail afoot in the entire spectrum made for a MUCH more realistic sound. While the 82's would not happily produce bass that would rattle things off your wall, they sounded wonderful at a volume that the Def's were noticeably struggling to attain. If you can spend the extra $800, I would, most certainly, recomend the Dyn's; and if you can't, I would suggest that you at least audition the 72's that are priced closer to the Def's before you buy. It all boils down to opinion, but Im gald I listened to the Dyn's before I made my purchase.

3 stars for quality, unless detailed bass is not much of an issue for you.

4 stars for value, because at a meager $1600, perfection is not an expectation, and they performed well for their price.

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Fantastic sound reproduction, undeniable bass, crisp highs and open soundstage... Very efficient.

Hrm...let me think...a crummy amp does not do them justice. Heavy suckers...

This review is for the Def Tech 2004TL's.

You cannot go wrong with this speaker. Such a fantastic presence and so efficient. The mids are a large step up from the 2006TL's, which utilize lower end midrange drivers in the Def Tech arsenal. I found the 2002TL and 3000TL Def Techs to be a bit too big for my applications. There are a few high end speakers close in $$$ which can compete with the Def Tech 2004tl. B&W CDM series towers are very comparable, but more $$$. And they cannot touch the bass performance of the 2004TL. YOu will need a sub with the B&W's, but really the 2004's do not need sub augmentation unless you are really looking to dope up your system.
I really disliked the B&O Penta's... just arent much competition and are rediculous $$$. Infinity IL 40's are solid speakers, but just cant compete in ANY category.. but are about $500 less. Bose (no comment...horrid speakers). Polk RT2000 sound nice in the mids and tweeters, but the dual 8" subs on the speaker are a freaking JOKE, boomy and sloppy. Paradigm monitors are great speakers, and mush less expensive...almost went with them, but would have had to add a sub. Klipsch reference series towes are solid as well, having very punchy bass, but the tweeters I found to be shrill and harsh...these speakers I would highly recomment to ppl who listen to techno and rock.

1st TWEETERS: The tweeters are crisp but not harsh, having a warm presence. Honestly I found the B&W nautilus tweeters on the CDM series a bit nicer sounding, but not by much. But that is the only aspect of the B&W's which can defeat the 2004TL's.

Mids: The 2004s have the nicest open sounding mids of any speaker I auditioned in my opinion. They do require a good amount of break in, so dont be freaked out when they sound tinny at 1st out of the box. A good 2 weeks of driving and they soften sooo well. Some ppl prefer the B&W mids, and I can hear why...but my taste differs. If I was more of a classical listener, I would have gone with the B&W...

Bass drivers: Well, this is really what sets the 2004s apart from the B&W. The dual 10" drivers are tight, not boomy, and punch out serious clean SPL. I found mine to happily run down to 15 Hz with no distortion, gleefully shaking pictures off my walls. They sound far better when used with the LDE line in and a Y-split cable. In fact, these subs have a very flat response with no detectable harmonic overtones. I found it near impossible to overdrive them to distortion...never once did they bottom out. My neighbors hate my guts... Having sold my Velodyne HGS-12 a while back (such a fine sub...broke my heart but I couldnt lug it to NYC) I really dont think I will have to add a sub until I go for a rediculous system.

The 2004TL's are a fine addition to any system. They will absolutely deafen you with clean open sound in techno, rock, and HT, and yet will tiptoe softly for the finest classical ensembles and Jazz.

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Velodyne VA-1012, Velodyne HGS-12, Infinity IL40's, Polk RT2000i, Bose(ugh), Bang and Olfsen Penta's, B&W, Paradigm Monitor 3, Klipsch Reference.

Open sound stage, crisp highs. Good for movies as well as music. They are not very large considering the sound they put out.

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This is a long term follow up. I am still very, very pleased with the purchase of the 2004TL. They are very pleasing for misic and movies. I had them running from a Nakamichi AV-10 for a while. Four months ago, I wired them up to two Hafler XL-280 amps running in bridged mode 400 watts. I am using a Hafler SE-100 for a preamp. I dearly love listening to my classical collection with them. The volume they can acheive is startling. I have never detected distortion when driving them hard, but then I am afraid of clipping the Haflers for fear of melting the drivers.

One added note. I have found that the speakers really are sensitive to placement. I have 14' vaulted cellings that slope to 8'. If I place the speakers paralell, 10" from the rear wall, the sound is less bright, and less focused. If I pull them out to 18" from the rear wall, and toe them in slightly, they take on a totally different sound. They are more open, better sound stage, brighter bla bla.

The subs are very pleasing on both music and video. I have mine set to 0930 on the volume. Setting it to 12:30 per the manual, makes my cat loose it's fur and re-arranges my photo wall.

I spend quite a bit of time browsing and listenting in audio stores. The only other speaker that I have found that I really like is made by a local company called RBH. I do not plan on replacing these for years to come.

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This is a follow up 1 month review to my previous post on the 2004TL's. Having read some of the criticisms of this speaker, I will comment on my perspective.

I am still in love with these speakers. I would consider myself an audiophile, but one on a budget :). I have driven these monoliths with every type of music there is, (but refused to put in rap or country out of sheer priciple) and I am really quite impressed with their versatility, openness, imaging, and accuracy.

I have been listening to every high end speaker in the $1500 or so price range out there to determine if I would have been happier with anything else, and sofar only the dynaudio audience 82's and BMW CDM-NT7 are solid competition. My preference is for the 2004TL, but many ppl have disagreed who know their stuff...so really it comes down to preference. ANd of course, you will only hear what you put into it..hence your source and amp should be of solid reference quality, or you will be disappointed. I am running them on an ARCAM Diva CD72 CD player and a Krell 150x2 watt amp.

The only thing i can find is that it is sometimes difficult to match the bass with the midbass and midrange, but it only seems to be an issue in rock or pop. This is solved by a quick tweak of the preamp. For classical, jazz, and acoustic, these speakers as far as I can tell are close to flawless. They have depth, and fantastic imaging...instruments sound real. I am kinda peeved that they are not bi-wirable like the 2002TL though.

Ppl here have made comments that the bass is not defined from the dual 10" powerfield drivers. I would have to say to them that they must be running them on low end components. I have found that the bass is deep, powerful, and very very tight... superbly so. The bass does drop off a bit at about 30 HZ, and then really drops at 20 Hz. But this due to the 10 inch driver...it is limited by its size. But it is a faster cone because of it, and does allow more detail than a bigger driver.

I put the drivers to the "home" test with my test CD and an SPL meter. On a test bass cascade from 15-200 Hz, at just over half volume on the krell and 1/3 power on the tower's built in amps, above 30 Hz the bass maintained a solid 115-120 dB in the sweet spot on my couch (these drivers werent even breaking a sweat). Below 20 Hz we noted it dropped to 96 dB. So really they have a very flat reponse, but if you are dying to have 117 dB's at 15 Hz, better add a reference quality sub. I personally have found no need for that, cause I have yet to hear a track have well recorded reference bass at 15 Hz. I tested out my friend's M&K MX-125 sub with dual 12 inch drivers with the same CD and SPL meter. At close to max driving, the M&K put out a solid 122 dB, but also dipped at 20 Hz to around 104 dB. So a bit better performer, but at $1200 for just that sub, it should be. Besides, are rooms are very different acoustically, so a perfect comparison that was not. That should give you an idea of the bass performance of the 2004TL. It really is staggering, and tight.

The dual drivers are great at eliminating standing waves also, a problem most ppl solve by adding 2 subs. So really, for the $$$, these speakers are the deal of the century.

For HT, I am amazed. Running them on a JVC-RV888 120 watt x4 +LFE integrated Dolby DTS Amp with a Pioneer DV-525 DVD player. Really, for HT, the 2004TL are the pinnacle. Star Wars episode 1, pod racer scene: peak of 123 dB in my apartment...2/3 volume. UGH my eyeballs were rattling. The cops got there very fast, needless to say. I bet my poor neighbors thought the aptmt was coming down on top of them.


Verdict: a Steal for the $$$. Home theater Mecca. Audiophiles beware, these make $10,000 speakers not so worth what you paid for them. Fastastically versatile. ENJOY!!

Any speaker that can make my head snap around and jaw drop has got to be amazing. I listened to Vanderstynes - great imaging but they're really not rock and roll speakers. Some Mirage Omnipolars, Paradigms, B&Ws - really shopped and listened around a lot b4 I came back to the definitives and bought them. Simply amazing!!!!

I recently purchased a pair of Definitive Technology BP2004's, along with a pair of their BP8B's and CLR2002's. They are connected to a Yamaha RXV793 receiver. I use the BP2004's for my main front speakers. Since the day I first heard them, I have been thrilled. They have a very spacious sound with full, rich bass. They can be rather bright with some music, but I like that. The level of sub woofer amplification can be adjusted to your own taste. I listen to them with the sub woofer amplification in the 10 o'clock position, but believe me if you like more bass they have plenty and then some. The speakers have a LF input for the sub woofers.
I listened to several other speakers brands in the same price range before I decided on these. To me, the Def. Tech. BP2004's were head and shoulders better sounding than any of the other brands I auditioned for the money. The other speakers I listened to just sounded 'flat' after hearing the Bi-Polar Def. Tech's. In my opinion, for the price they can't be beat.

I use Def. Tech. BP8B's for my rear surround speakers. They are identical to the BP2004's except they do not have built in sub woofers. They are very balanced in sound with the BP2004's, with less bass response.

Finally, these speakers are beautiful. Instead of looking like a monolithic block of wood, they have a very elegant appearance with black grille cloth on all sides and black lacquer end caps.

Overall, 5 stars!