Ohm Walsh F Floorstanding Speakers
Ohm Walsh F Floorstanding Speakers
[Apr 11, 2007]
Dave Smith
AudioPhile
Strength:
Bold, beautiful looks, magnificent sound if you had the power (the A's were very inefficient, the F's were not so bad). Awesome 3-D imaging capability, earthquake bass response (a flower on the coffee table would shake its leaves with Rick Wakeman's organ). Vivid treble - drums and cymbals were (seemed) actually in the room!
Weakness:
Ohm Model A: the Model A tended to sound veiled and withdrawn with typical amplifiers of the day (1971-73). It was not until I used 600W rms per channel did they have enough electrical drive dynamic range to open up and really start to shine. They sounded most realistic at near natural volumes: when a drum kick or a cymbal shot was near the volume of a real drum set played in the same room. The the Ohm A was very alive sounding - all veils removed!
In 1972 I worked as an Audio Consultant in Roanoke VA. Our store was an Ohm Acoustics dealer. We had just seen the Ohm A and the new and much smaller Ohm F at a show in Wash DC. The handmade, one-off Ohm A's were magnificent. Actually the pic you see above is the Ohm A, the commercial smaller Ohm F was about 2/3 the height and width of the A and its Walsh cone had the bottom 2/3 made from a paper composite material, while the top high frequency portion was of titanium foil. The Ohm A on the other hand was 100% metallic cone, 18" diameter at is base (the F was 12" I believe). The model A cone was heavy aluminum as its base which extended about 3/4 of the cone height to the transition to the titanium foil "tweeter". The aluminum and titanium portions had different conical angles also, while the F used a single cone angle. The tweeter designs were similar on the F anf the A, the midrange, woofer and the voice coils were very different however. Bob Ajaye of Ohm was the master builder and tuner of the A, while the F was an assembly line "mass produced" product. I used Dynaco ST400 power amps, strapped to mono (600W rms per channel) on the As. I had Dyna preamps to, the PAS3x and the PAT4 and PAT5. I listened mostly then to rock music, and eventually blew the A's voice coil after a particularly loud and out of control party one Saturday afternoon. After the voice coils melted on Lou Reed's Rock 'n Roll Animal , we dissasembled the driver from the base cabinet and I remember getting burned on the giant magnet assembly! Damn that hurt! Man, those were the days. But not to worry, Bob Ajaye rebuilt them for me (under warranty!!!) and I was back in business in about 10 days.
Customer Service Ohm Acoustics was always a very friendly, customer oriented company, located in Brooklyn NY. Bob Ajaye would wear tight back leather gloves to drive (at very high speed) his car through the back streets of Brooklyn. A great guy. Similar Products Used: Nothing really close to the Ohm A sound of 1973. Other nice "big sound" speakers include (in cronological order) AR LST, Bose 901, Magnaplanar, Dahlquist DQ10, Quad Electrostatic, Magnepan, Fried Model H. I sold all my audio gear in 1982 and did without until about 1992. For the last 14 years I have lived with the amazingly articulate, super 3-D and extremely musical Martin-Login Monolith III. |
[Apr 11, 2007]
Dave Smith
AudioPhile
Strength:
Bold, beautiful looks, magnificent sound if you had the power (the A's were very inefficient, the F's were not so bad). Awesome 3-D imaging capability, earthquake bass response (a flower on the coffee table would shake its leaves with Rick Wakeman's organ). Vivid treble - drums and cymbals were (seemed) actually in the room!
Weakness:
Ohm Model A: the Model A tended to sound veiled and withdrawn with typical amplifiers of the day (1971-73). It was not until I used 600W rms per channel did they have enough electrical drive dynamic range to open up and really start to shine. They sounded most realistic at near natural volumes: when a drum kick or a cymbal shot was near the volume of a real drum set played in the same room. The the Ohm A was very alive sounding - all veils removed!
In 1972 I worked as an Audio Consultant in Roanoke VA. Our store was an Ohm Acoustics dealer. We had just seen the Ohm A and the new and much smaller Ohm F at a show in Wash DC. The handmade, one-off Ohm A's were magnificent. Actually the pic you see above is the Ohm A, the commercial smaller Ohm F was about 2/3 the height and width of the A and its Walsh cone had the bottom 2/3 made from a paper composite material, while the top high frequency portion was of titanium foil. The Ohm A on the other hand was 100% metallic cone, 18" diameter at is base (the F was 12" I believe). The model A cone was heavy aluminum as its base which extended about 3/4 of the cone height to the transition to the titanium foil "tweeter". The aluminum and titanium portions had different conical angles also, while the F used a single cone angle. The tweeter designs were similar on the F anf the A, the midrange, woofer and the voice coils were very different however. Bob Ajaye of Ohm was the master builder and tuner of the A, while the F was an assembly line "mass produced" product. I used Dynaco ST400 power amps, strapped to mono (600W rms per channel) on the As. I had Dyna preamps to, the PAS3x and the PAT4 and PAT5. I listened mostly then to rock music, and eventually blew the A's voice coil after a particularly loud and out of control party one Saturday afternoon. After the voice coils melted on Lou Reed's Rock 'n Roll Animal , we dissasembled the driver from the base cabinet and I remember getting burned on the giant magnet assembly! Damn that hurt! Man, those were the days. But not to worry, Bob Ajaye rebuilt them for me (under warranty!!!) and I was back in business in about 10 days.
Customer Service Ohm Acoustics was always a very friendly, customer oriented company, located in Brooklyn NY. Bob Ajaye would wear tight back leather gloves to drive (at very high speed) his car through the back streets of Brooklyn. A great guy. Similar Products Used: Nothing really close to the Ohm A sound of 1973. Other nice "big sound" speakers include (in cronological order) AR LST, Bose 901, Magnaplanar, Dahlquist DQ10, Quad Electrostatic, Magnepan, Fried Model H. I sold all my audio gear in 1982 and did without until about 1992. For the last 14 years I have lived with the amazingly articulate, super 3-D and extremely musical Martin-Login Monolith III. |
[Apr 11, 2007]
Dave Smith
AudioPhile
Strength:
Bold, beautiful looks, magnificent sound if you had the power (the A's were very inefficient, the F's were not so bad). Awesome 3-D imaging capability, earthquake bass response (a flower on the coffee table would shake its leaves with Rick Wakeman's organ). Vivid treble - drums and cymbals were (seemed) actually in the room!
Weakness:
Ohm Model A: the Model A tended to sound veiled and withdrawn with typical amplifiers of the day (1971-73). It was not until I used 600W rms per channel did they have enough electrical drive dynamic range to open up and really start to shine. They sounded most realistic at near natural volumes: when a drum kick or a cymbal shot was near the volume of a real drum set played in the same room. The the Ohm A was very alive sounding - all veils removed!
In 1972 I worked as an Audio Consultant in Roanoke VA. Our store was an Ohm Acoustics dealer. We had just seen the Ohm A and the new and much smaller Ohm F at a show in Wash DC. The handmade, one-off Ohm A's were magnificent. Actually the pic you see above is the Ohm A, the commercial smaller Ohm F was about 2/3 the height and width of the A and its Walsh cone had the bottom 2/3 made from a paper composite material, while the top high frequency portion was of titanium foil. The Ohm A on the other hand was 100% metallic cone, 18" diameter at is base (the F was 12" I believe). The model A cone was heavy aluminum as its base which extended about 3/4 of the cone height to the transition to the titanium foil "tweeter". The aluminum and titanium portions had different conical angles also, while the F used a single cone angle. The tweeter designs were similar on the F anf the A, the midrange, woofer and the voice coils were very different however. Bob Ajaye of Ohm was the master builder and tuner of the A, while the F was an assembly line "mass produced" product. I used Dynaco ST400 power amps, strapped to mono (600W rms per channel) on the As. I had Dyna preamps to, the PAS3x and the PAT4 and PAT5. I listened mostly then to rock music, and eventually blew the A's voice coil after a particularly loud and out of control party one Saturday afternoon. After the voice coils melted on Lou Reed's Rock 'n Roll Animal , we dissasembled the driver from the base cabinet and I remember getting burned on the giant magnet assembly! Damn that hurt! Man, those were the days. But not to worry, Bob Ajaye rebuilt them for me (under warranty!!!) and I was back in business in about 10 days.
Customer Service Ohm Acoustics was always a very friendly, customer oriented company, located in Brooklyn NY. Bob Ajaye would wear tight back leather gloves to drive (at very high speed) his car through the back streets of Brooklyn. A great guy. Similar Products Used: Nothing really close to the Ohm A sound of 1973. Other nice "big sound" speakers include (in cronological order) AR LST, Bose 901, Magnaplanar, Dahlquist DQ10, Quad Electrostatic, Magnepan, Fried Model H. I sold all my audio gear in 1982 and did without until about 1992. For the last 14 years I have lived with the amazingly articulate, super 3-D and extremely musical Martin-Login Monolith III. |
[Apr 11, 2007]
Dave Smith
AudioPhile
Strength:
Bold, beautiful looks, magnificent sound if you had the power (the A's were very inefficient, the F's were not so bad). Awesome 3-D imaging capability, earthquake bass response (a flower on the coffee table would shake its leaves with Rick Wakeman's organ). Vivid treble - drums and cymbals were (seemed) actually in the room!
Weakness:
Ohm Model A: the Model A tended to sound veiled and withdrawn with typical amplifiers of the day (1971-73). It was not until I used 600W rms per channel did they have enough electrical drive dynamic range to open up and really start to shine. They sounded most realistic at near natural volumes: when a drum kick or a cymbal shot was near the volume of a real drum set played in the same room. The the Ohm A was very alive sounding - all veils removed!
In 1972 I worked as an Audio Consultant in Roanoke VA. Our store was an Ohm Acoustics dealer. We had just seen the Ohm A and the new and much smaller Ohm F at a show in Wash DC. The handmade, one-off Ohm A's were magnificent. Actually the pic you see above is the Ohm A, the commercial smaller Ohm F was about 2/3 the height and width of the A and its Walsh cone had the bottom 2/3 made from a paper composite material, while the top high frequency portion was of titanium foil. The Ohm A on the other hand was 100% metallic cone, 18" diameter at is base (the F was 12" I believe). The model A cone was heavy aluminum as its base which extended about 3/4 of the cone height to the transition to the titanium foil "tweeter". The aluminum and titanium portions had different conical angles also, while the F used a single cone angle. The tweeter designs were similar on the F anf the A, the midrange, woofer and the voice coils were very different however. Bob Ajaye of Ohm was the master builder and tuner of the A, while the F was an assembly line "mass produced" product. I used Dynaco ST400 power amps, strapped to mono (600W rms per channel) on the As. I had Dyna preamps to, the PAS3x and the PAT4 and PAT5. I listened mostly then to rock music, and eventually blew the A's voice coil after a particularly loud and out of control party one Saturday afternoon. After the voice coils melted on Lou Reed's Rock 'n Roll Animal , we dissasembled the driver from the base cabinet and I remember getting burned on the giant magnet assembly! Damn that hurt! Man, those were the days. But not to worry, Bob Ajaye rebuilt them for me (under warranty!!!) and I was back in business in about 10 days.
Customer Service Ohm Acoustics was always a very friendly, customer oriented company, located in Brooklyn NY. Bob Ajaye would wear tight back leather gloves to drive (at very high speed) his car through the back streets of Brooklyn. A great guy. Similar Products Used: Nothing really close to the Ohm A sound of 1973. Other nice "big sound" speakers include (in cronological order) AR LST, Bose 901, Magnaplanar, Dahlquist DQ10, Quad Electrostatic, Magnepan, Fried Model H. I sold all my audio gear in 1982 and did without until about 1992. For the last 14 years I have lived with the amazingly articulate, super 3-D and extremely musical Martin-Login Monolith III. |
[Apr 11, 2007]
seawolf97
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
Unlike any other speaker. Much like an electrostatic with a room sized "sweet spot", but with strong bass.
Weakness:
Nominally 4 ohm, can drop to 2 ohm or less. Takes a capable amp. Am using a BGW250D and it is a good combo.
I heard my first pair of OHM F's in 1977 at a high end stereo shop in Portland, Oregon. Was completely "blown away". I had been an enthusiast for many years, but had never experienced any speaker like them. That was 30 years ago, never forgot them. 2 years ago, purchased some OHM 2XO's. Very nice, but not the same. Was impressed tho with the tech support from OHM's president, John S. , even tho these were vintage products.
Customer Service tech support straight from the company president. Cant get much better than that. Similar Products Used: There are no similar products. Closest was OHM 2XO
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[Oct 04, 2006]
supergonzo
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
Incredible full soundstage, your room becomes a concert hall, great detail in everything about bass frequencys. The coolest looking speaker you have ever gazed upon, lots to talk about. If you think your a punk and would never listen to classical music ever, these speakers will change your mind on that in one listen.
Weakness:
Need high quality, good power level, 4 ohm driver capability to sound correct. They need a dedicated space in your room to sit, they are somewhat large. They could use a non-powered subwoofer to help out when you wanna crank the bass up. Otherwise they can get muddled quickly with heavy metal and loud rock music. I remembered these speakers since I was selling Pioneer speakers on the street back in the late 70's. I always used to browse into "audiophile" stores which were very common at the time, and listen to all of the expensive speakers. The OHM F's really stuck out in my mind as the greatest speakers I had heard at that time. As years went by, I finally had enough money to buy a good used pair and give them a listen in my new home.
Customer Service good, they can be rebuilt I have heard, even though OHM will tell you they won't sound the same, I think they are just pushing their newer lines. I have heard re foamed versions and when done correctly they sound just like new Similar Products Used: There is no comparison out there...sorry |
[Jul 15, 2006]
Albert
AudioPhile
Strength:
Coherent, smooth sound with very good detail on vocals, when using good electronics (mine are modified from stock). I can listen to these speakers all day and not get tired of them.
Weakness:
Needs a good, powerful amplifier to drive it. Can't play very loud, but loud enough for me. Foam surrounds go bad over time, but can be repaired. Ohm says that a repaired F never met original specs as far as the units they have seen. I will add to the information that other reviewers here have said so well, and offer some suggestions to improving the F experience.
Customer Service Ohm customer service is wonderful. They are willing to help you get what suits you for a reasonable price and has a long trial period so you can get used to listening to the speakers and be sure those are what you want. Similar Products Used: Walsh 5, upgrade for the Ohm F. Custom-built 3-way speaker (40 Hz up to ??). |
[Apr 06, 2005]
scarey
AudioPhile
Strength:
Everything.....
Weakness:
Little on Highs but some recordings i have found are not the greatest.. I just recently traded a pair of NotePerfect Alpha speakers to a wonderful gentleman in chicago area for the OHM Walsh model F.... Bigger than I expected.. Got them home Put them on my system WOW. everyone talks about lack of bass... Well it could be room acoustics amps cables or just about anything... The response is perfect.... Best trade so far. I use them with Dynaco Pas-4 Dynaco CDV-1 tube cd player Zu cable Libtec speaker cables Zu cable Gede Interconnects' Micheal Wolff Power cables Krell KSA-150 Power Amp... The harder i drive them the better they play.. Similar Products Used: Symdex Sigma Omega A/D/S Ess Heil Dynaco Note Perfect. Telefunken BRAUN Quatre |
[Mar 17, 2003]
Worf101
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
Wide soundstage, smooth warm refined sound. Beautiful walnut finish. Not as heavy as the original...
Weakness:
Weak bass, no on spaker controls as with other Walsh Series. No castors. These speakers were part of a "test run" Ohm did when first converting the Walsh F from the classic tall inverted cone to a more standard Walsh Can design. They were hand delivered to their previous owner by the head of the company. I'm the second person to own these speakers. As a result the speaker looks a little stunted and does not quite have the finish of the Original Ohm F or later Walsh numbers. I have Ohm Walsh 4's and 2's. The F's replaced the 4's as mains in my home theater. After about a month I can say that the F being a top ported design does not reach as low as my Walsh 4's and the soundstage is not as detailed. Highs are also not as detailed as this prototype does not have the Walsh SuperTweet near as I can tell. They sound is smooth, refined, layed back. Very suitable for jazz, classical. Rock and Rap don't fare well without a subwoofer. I certainly wish these speakers had the original large inverted dome driver but they do not. With the Walsh Can the F's a good speaker but perhaps not a great one. If I intend to keep these I'll probably get one of the Company upgrades. Similar Products Used: Ohm Walsh 4's, Ohm Walsh 2's |
[Apr 10, 2002]
ohmaddict
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
stereo imaging;no crossover;ohm support (they are still upgradable)
Weakness:
age is causing deterioration. According to Ohm, manual is wrong and product only goes to 17kHz (my manual says 35-20k) aluminium part of cone prone to (at least) cosmetic damage. Some (not me!) would say their weight. No longer reparable by the factory :( I picked these speakers up years ago, when I finally had the money to start shopping for stereo equipment. I went with a fellow enthusiast who actually knows a lot more and we stumbled upon these rare gems. I have been pleased and am currently trying to get another matching walnut pair to serve as rears for HT. Ohm doesn''t make anything like these even today. All the newer designs have a "super tweeter", probably to address the high end issue that my manual claims doesn''t exist (see weekness), so I don''t know if they will sound as good. Current equipment: B&K Ref 30 Sunfire Cinema Grand Pioneer DV37 Sony 333ES Sunfire TrueSub MkII DT CLR2000 (used only for HT) DT BPX (used only for HT) Similar Products Used: None |