Thiel CS2.3 Floorstanding Speakers
Thiel CS2.3 Floorstanding Speakers
[Nov 27, 1998]
Mike Kozlowski
an Audio Enthusiast
I liked these much better than Thiel's 1.5; but that comment can very much be filed under "damning with faint praise" given my opinion of the 1.5. These had some of the icy brightness of the 1.5s, but were much improved in this regard. I think I could probably live with these speakers if I had to, but I would never choose to do so. |
[Dec 23, 1998]
Martin
an Audio Enthusiast
I recently decided to upgrade my entire audio system and spent about 3 months listening and comparing various models of CD players, Pre Amps, Power Amps and Speakers. My preference in terms of sound signature is for products that are quite transparent with little or no coloration. My music tastes are mostly classical (large and small scale orchestral and opera) with occasional evenings listening to 60s, 70s and 80s rock. (Beatles, Rolling Stones, Eagles, Elton John...). |
[Dec 28, 1998]
Jay
an Audio Enthusiast
The Thiel 2.3 is a ground-breaking product. |
[Dec 24, 1998]
brk
an Audio Enthusiast
I have owned this speaker for 2 months. It turns out that they need a good kick to maximize their performance, especially with tube amps which must fight the Thiel's low impedence. The two key performance attributes of the 2.3 to my ear are: 1) No glaring faults- compared to others in the immediate price range, the 2.3s give you the whole package- imaging, flat-as-a-board frequency response, musicality, top to bottom coherence, and satisfying bass. 2) A pronounced, effortless, wide open midrange- for me this made the Thiels the most enjoyable $3500 speaker that I listened to (better that Hales, Proac, Medowlark, Audio Physic, and even the Thiel 3.6). I am upgrading to Merlin VSM-SE's for the same qualities as above PLUS more detail in the mids and highs PLUS- most importantly- a high impedence and sensitivity. Finally, I can turn the volume up!!! |
[Jan 14, 1999]
davecjr
an Audio Enthusiast
After 3 weeks of constant listening I might have only given the 2.3's a 3. I then went and bought a Sunfire amp. I now have no trouble with a 5 rating.It was a simple matter of under powering them.I am unclear why this is not made more clear in the marketing info or on the web page. I feel that the 2.3's are by far the most accurate speaker in this price range. |
[Jan 18, 1999]
Ivin Seabrook
an Audio Enthusiast
These are good speakers for the money. Really gave the B&W Nautilus 802 ($8000) a run for its money. Extremely dynamic, extremely detailed, a very "exciting" speaker to listen to. Very large soundstage.But after only 3 or 4 cuts, the brightness was very apparent. My ears were ringing. The cost of all this detail and dynamics are an extremely bright sound. And the 2.3's are going to very critical of poor recordings. |
[Jan 19, 1999]
Dave
an Audio Enthusiast
Like many other speakers from Thiel, the 2.3s give a very revealing sound, pinpoint imaging, and great reproduction of percussion sounds. While they are definitely better and more forgiving than the 2.2s, I still feel sometimes they tend to be too analytical and dry or liveless. |
[Jan 17, 1999]
bob
an Audio Enthusiast
I was lidstening to an Aerial 10T at a dealer when a guy came into the room and said " I am a drummerer, drums don't sound like that. I just sold my 10Ts and bought a paIR of 2.3" He then walked out of the room and brought in the latest Stereophile with a review. He states better sound at half the price. With an intro like this, I went to a dealer to listen. Actually twice. Imaging and soundstage were great but they were TOOOOOOO revealing and my girlfriend pianist was getting tired of them. I have 4-500 CDs, probably most of average quality. Yhis speaker made me realize how bad they were. I enjoy music. This speaker took the music away. As for the drummer, I'll be nice!. Now I know why I do not go to many concerts anymore. If you enjoy misery through revealing, these are for you! |
[Jun 03, 1999]
Mark Jenkins
an Audio Enthusiast
I love these speakers and bought them. But to qualify this recommendation I need to outline my biases. I find stereo gear that adds a persistant tonal colour regardless of source material to be highly frustrating. Problems of this nature send me into an endless search for the change to cables, or isolation that will ameliorate the problem - that drive me and everyone in the household to distraction. Worst of all it causes me to continuously listen to what the system is adding to the music to validate whether my attempts to fix the problem are working satisfactorily. So the absence of tonal colour abberations are top of my list when buying new equipment. |
[Jun 20, 1999]
Florin Penciu
an Audio Enthusiast
I'm in the market for new speakers and I listened extensively to speakers in the 1.5-4k category.I also listened pretty long sessions to expensive speakers for comparison and personal feedback( speakers between 7-78k).Here is what I dicovered to date. Thiel 1.5: extremely detailed, wonderful soundstage width and depth,lacking in vertical recreation of space (everything sounds at the knee level).Disappear wonderfully. Overly bright on poorly recorded material when paired with the Krell 300i,producing listening fatigue in long listening sessions.Suitable for small rooms.Bass amasing for such a small speaker,but clearly lacking in comparison with its larger siblings.ProAc 1SC paired with Audio Research VT100: not as detailed as the little Thiels,ravishing female voice reproduction.Soundstage as good as that of Thiels but much better vertical space recreation, satisfatory bass.The best disappearance act in audio I've seen.Not as good for large scale music as for chamber and vocal music.Stratus Gold i:overal satisfactory performance,good bass, not capable of completely vanishing,very good bang for the buck but clearly not in the same league as the others auditioned.Martin Logan Aerius i:wonderful soundstage but not enough bass and the bass clearly in an inferior class qualitatively when compared with their wonderful midrange.B&W CDM-7SE,N 805:nice speakers with delicate midrange and satisfactory soundstage.Not as detailed as the Thiels,their soundstage inferior to the one reproduced by the ProAcs or the Thiels or the Martin Logans( by a very small margin,it could be their placement) |