Pioneer PRO-610HD Rear Projection
Pioneer PRO-610HD Rear Projection
USER REVIEWS
[Sep 13, 2004]
bergzy
AudioPhile
Strength:
wickedly sharp and true colors of projected image. ability to have huge adjustment capabilities of projection guns.
Weakness:
the protective screen is pretty relective. other than that, nothing. here is a review i posted in eopinions.com dated in july 2001. i was probably one of the first to have a pioneer elite 610. though it may be considered older technology, it is still the best set out there in my opinion. the only other set i have seen that compares and may exceed it a little is, of course, the new pioneer elite plasma. no other company comes close to the clarity of pioneer hd's. the other companies my brag with stats and whatever highest technology they put into it but the real test is consumer satisfaction. every set i have sampled falls painfully short of a pioneer elite. eopinions.com review: Well, after what seemed like an eternity of himming and hawing, my wife and I decided to get a large screen hdtv. We looked at a lot of models and styles. We looked at plasma televisions and CRT based HDTV?s. We decided that a projection HDTV would suit us ideally both size wise and economically. Plasma televisions were small, with the maximum size being 50 inches. Also the price was a factor since most were between $12,000 to $18,000. We also looked at CRT based HDTV?s. Again, the size was small for the price you paid. I am by no means an electronic expert but to me, HDTV looked the same regardless of which mode (plasma, CRT or projection) was presented. What I did notice was differences in the manufactures. Slight things like if the picture was soft or hard, how bright it was, blah, blah, blah. Specs were important to a certain degree and I guess it would be important to those who judges a piece of equipment by specs first and performance second. All we wanted was a good TV to enjoy watching our dvd?s at a theater quality level. After looking endlessly at a multiple of various dealers? showrooms, we decided that pioneer made the best projection HDTV?s that suited our desires. The picture was bright and crisp without being overly ?hard?. At first we were going to get the ?regular? pioneer HDTV but when they showed us the elite models, we just loved it. We saw ?The Mummy? on a progressive scan dvd player and were floored but how ?theater quality? the entire experience was. I could see individual hairs on the actor?s head. Amazing! So, after a few more months of going to various dealers and looking for something that would exceed our personal standards set by the pioneer elite, we found that nothing compared to it. I even registered on some HDTV forums for opinions about which HDTV those who are really into it really thought highly of. Pioneer elite came up numerous times. So we bought it as our anniversary present for us! The day of we received it was fun! The delivery people take this monster of a box off their truck and wheel it to our front door via a dolly. They then proceed to remove the TV from its box because they have done this many a times and the box does not fit through the door! After a few huffs and puffs from them, they get it into the place where it was supposed to be! Man, it is a lot bigger in the house! They connect my sound system to it and connect the dvd player to it. I put in ?the matrix? dvd and hit play. No picture, just sound. I was worried that either the connectors were broken or worse yet, the TV! After about ten minutes of plugging and unplugging of the same wires, I see a switch to put it into progressive scan mode! D?oh! Voila, ?The Matrix? on my new HDTV! My wife and I watch this thing all night! The most amazing movies were ?Toy Story 2? and ?Dinosaur?. I could see every hair on the computer-generated monkey. Absolutely amazing. One forgets how sharp the picture is until you switch back into ?regular? broadcast TV. The broadcast signal is very fuzzy and grainy compared to HDTV. ?Sigh?, I guess we are permanently spoiled? on HDTV now. The good thing is that I don?t watch a lot of regular TV. We are so pleased with this television, we could not have been happier with it! I did not include all the technical jargon because, to me, what is important is the final result: the enjoyment of the movie. Hope this helps! Take care! Similar Products Used: looked at mits and the other hd sets from plasma, crt and projection when i was in the market for a hd tv. all fell short except for the pioneer elite. whatever the price, it is well worth it. even if it went for the same price as it does today. |
[Sep 15, 2003]
ed
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
convergence excellence , clarity of pix.seems not to have problems on hdtv upconversions that other newer sets have. remote actually works really well even though it is not exactly the easisest to sue. There are features on the set and the remote which I suspect most casual users will never get around to.
Weakness:
not enough cmponnet imputs, no dvi or firewire. Blacks way to black and on an older magnavox 32 I can see in the darks where on the 610 it is simply muddy black. Needs to be professionaly installed, my dealer kids simply dropped it off and turned it on. Turns out it was dusty on the lenses but I suffered with poor picutre for almost a year until I found two technicians and the second(suggested strongly and to their credit by the dealer did it right. spend the money on a good tech. don't count on a dealer. Pioneer Customer support was just about non existent and on many occassions either ignorant of the product or unwilling to provide help==I was extremely unhappy with the Pioneer Elite "support" I felt I had been suckered into something for going the "elite" route. The set itself is still very good but I know better now. Yamaha's support--for other products-=-was a 9 to 10 of ten, pionner was a tepid 3-4 although one guy was a 8 for sincerity (but a 4 for product knowlege). excellent tv but getting dated esp. no dvi does not have the problems other newer sets have with up conversions and and the like. great for dvd movies. |
[Sep 13, 2002]
Jim Morin
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
Great Picture
Weakness:
Price, but you get what you pay for. Fantastic! Now that I've had the set for 2 Years its even better. Being frugal I looked at every TV available, well almost. The Pe610 blows them away. The picture was great until I got my monster AVS5100 power filter & AVS2000 power stabalizer,and "better cable" component Video cable, but since hooking them up the picture is fantastic. I suspect some of the negative reviews are due to cheap cables and power souce prolems. Similar Products Used: Toshiba, Sony, Panasonic |
[Mar 26, 2002]
Big Tex
Audio Enthusiast
I am amazed at the reviews here stating that this set has picture problems of ANY sort. Any RPTV HAS GOT to be properly calibrated - and I don''''t mean the internal calibration that Pioneer adds with the set. I am talking about having a professional come and do it right through the service mode. Takes about an hour to do it right but the results are really astonishing. Most dealers worth their salt do this for you when they deliver it, at no charge. Mail order buyers have to take their chances, but as good as it looks now, it will look far better when properly converged. I have a 64" Pioneer set (non-Elite). This set, which is converged and calibrated, looks noticably better than an out of the box Elite. But when the Elite is converged IT looks better than the Pioneer. A couple of hundred bucks to have this incredible TV calibrated properly is nothing compared to the price of the set, and the difference will make your jaw drop. |
[Mar 17, 2002]
james geib
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
Picture quality. Build Quality. Knowing you own the best.
Weakness:
Price is a little high, but then again a Porsche costs more than a Taurus! Both get you there, one does it in style. Had to respond to the post by Steve ''The audio/video specialist''. Do YOUR homework Steve. Any RPTV set you buy needs to be calibrated by a professional after it has settled in. When this is performed on the Pioneer Elite sets, they simply have the best picture available in an RPTV set Steve, and that is why the price is oh so high. Ask any educated, trained professional. Don''t rely on your own eyesight until you''ve had Lasik! You are entitled to your opinon, but it''s sad to see you knock down the ratings on the best RPTV sets one can buy! Are you one of those guys who argues that Bose speakers sound better than high-end speakers?? Are you running standard 12Gauge zip-cord to your speakers?? Then, go for a lesser set! As for me and my family, I will provide the best I can afford. Similar Products Used: Hitachi, Sony, Mitsu (Diamond) |
[Mar 16, 2000]
Ed
Audiophile
Strength:
Excellent line doubler. Scan Velocity Modulator can be turned off. 72 point user adjustable convergence
Weakness:
Looking at a standard TV broadcast in a widescreen format take some getting used to. Preset modes Movie, Live, Standard and Game tint the whites either to blue or in the case of the Movie setting, additional yellow is added. The Standard mode is the most correct. Best resolution of all of the other big screens I reviewed prior to this purchase. My previous big screen was a Sony 53" XBR, so I started my pre-purchase evaluation with Sony, but the lack of a wide screen format and poor resolution caused me to drop Sony from further consideration. The other sets failed becasue of poor resolution and or poor color fidelity compared to the Pioneer I bought the set primarly for movies and I have not been disappointed. Use the best component video cables in order to achieve the best performance. Poor quality video cables are ruthlessly exposed for what they are. Use Video Essentials to override the preset modes to obtain a more accurate picture until the set in broken in enough for professional calibration. I plan to have the set calibrated within the next few weeks. I can't wait. Similar Products Used: Sony 53" and 61" XBR (16x9 format not available) Toshiba -16x9, Sharp - 16x9 Mitsubishi. Could not find a Panasonic |
[Mar 18, 2000]
Tony
Audiophile
Strength:
Tinted protective screen seemed to enhance picture quality and doesn't collect dust like a regular tube picture. Multiple screen enhacement options such as dual tuner, widescreen zoom, 4:3 option, etc.
Weakness:
Like the previous reviewer, preset modes for movies, standard, games, etc. needed to be fine tune for correct color hues. The remote response isn't top notch like other brands when changing settings, I think there seems to be a 1 sec delay in between keypad presses. The Digital Tuner addon for digital broadcast signals is fairly expensive then other brands. I had a chance to make a number of side by side comparisons on different brands which makes a world of a difference when choosing an HDTV in this size and price range. I also was able to compare using satellite feeds from DISH Network and DVD movies. The Pioneer HDTV stood out from the others in sound and picture quality. Of course, sound doesn't really matter since you more then likely will be hooking it up to your home audio system but it shows you the extent of the workmanship and quality that Pioneer went through in both audio and visual. The Pioneer HDTV shines the most when it comes to DVDs. The clarity, contrast, and sharpness is unbelievable wishing I had bought the PRO710HD for an even bigger screen. My DISH Network channels are fairly sharp depending on the signal strengths. I need to however upgrade to the 5000 series receiver to take full advantage of the HDTV. For cosmetics, the laquered black casing gives it an even more expensive look then the flat black color on other brands. My only disappointment is with the remote controller, in feel and response as indicated. My fix for this was to move all of the functions to my Sony remote commander. If you want to get the most out of your DVDs (especially widescreen format)and digital broadcasts, you can't go wrong with the Pioneer Elite HDTV line. Similar Products Used: Reviewed 16x9 HDTV Mitsubishi Diamond Series, Toshiba, and Panasonic lines. Sony didn't have a 16x9 HDTV screen available at the time. |
[Oct 11, 2000]
Arslan Hussain
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
Best picture quality and looks!
Weakness:
None so far. I went with this size as it was the perfect fit for my basement home theatre and plus if it was an inch bigger I would'nt be able to get it in without scratches. Similar Products Used: PRO-510 & PRO-710 |
[Jul 30, 2000]
Geoff
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
Built in Line doubler is incredible - the absolute best for all RPTV's under 10k. Amazing picture from all sources including VCR and Satellite. Fairly decent remote (if you care about that kind of thing).
Weakness:
Haven't seen one yet! I decided to get an HDTV after my buddy bought the Mitsu 55x81. At first I went with the Sharp 64', because I heard that that model Sharp shared most compenents with the Pioneer Elites, but at a much lower price. Similar Products Used: Sharp HSP64000, Mitsu 55x81 |
[Jun 08, 2000]
wendell
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
Picture quality on DVDs. Look of the unit is top notch.
Weakness:
Protective screen, After extensive research into hdtv ready, large screen tvs, I slowly landed into the pioneer Elite series. Similar Products Used: Pioneer 50"-1994 |