Yamaha RX-V1200 A/V Receivers
Yamaha RX-V1200 A/V Receivers
[May 09, 2002]
wuphold
AudioPhile
Strength:
Great sound and features. The ability to drive lower impedence audiophile loudspeakers. nice features. Sounds more musical than Sony, Denon,other receivers in the same price class.
Weakness:
Manual and setup was somewhat tricky to figure out at first. The dealer Audio Craft had to explain to us how to set it up. I am a speaker builder and have designed many other electronics over the past 15 years. I own very top of the line electronics (high end Musical Fidelity amps, etc.) I have a small business and have sold many speaker systems and electronics to clients and just built what I feel are no compromise loudspeakers using only the finest drivers and crossover parts I have found for a client. I set up his complete audio system with the no compromise speakers for this client thinking he would have to upgrade his receiver to really hear the beautiful sound of the speakers. Well this is the receiver I would now recommend to anyone wanting great and crystal clear sound and wish not to spend 3 or 4 grand or more for only marginally better sound. The Yamaha Rx-v1200 receiver is a steal. Try hooking this unit up to the best speakers in a high end audio store and then compare the sound with High end amps. This unit has the finest high frequency detail I have heard under 3 grand. The overall sound is very musical Similar Products Used: Rotel |
[May 08, 2002]
rnd96
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
Power, features, Pro-logic 2, clean sound, remote, connections, easy to use once your figure it out.
Weakness:
Well if I can be nit-picky, the numbers are in a bad place on the remote (at the bottom) and it is kind of hard to change while holding it only in my right hand. Big deal! I considered Onkyo 797, Denon 2802/3802, and comparable Yamaha receivers based on the reviews at this website (which has been extremely beneficial). Got the "go ahead" from my wife to get my new system as we are remodeling our living room. Had an old Harmon Kardon avr20 pro-logic that made an obnoxious hum whenever the system was on, along with an extremely high pitched hiss. This had to go. While listening to the Boston VR 975 and VR 920, the Yamaha was clean, had no demonstrable hiss or humm. Even after I got it hooked up at home, when I turned it off (and I always turn the volume all the way down when I turn off my receivers), it was silent. This receiver has got power and connections up the wazu. All of the S-video, composite connections you coupld want for a system totaling $5K or less. I can''t imagine why anyone would want to spend a boat load more when they would only be getting a trivial increase in performance which would not even be noticable. As for the Pro-logic 2, I listen to everything except CD''s in this mode (music). Basically if you need/want/gotta have a receiver in this $ range, and your wife gives you the ok, you will not be disappointed with this one. By the way, the "learning remote" kicks butt. It has eliminated all of my other remotes (with some of my other equipment being over 6-7 years old). Similar Products Used: Harmon Kardon Pro-logic, Sony Dolby Digital receiver, Kenwood Pro-logic. |
[May 06, 2002]
BasementBum
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
CLEAN warm sound (not too warm) wich adds much distinctiveness to percussions, voices, etc...whatever you''re listening to. All around good amp. More than enough power (my Onkyo had 80 watts also and couldn''t compete at high volumes compared to this Yamaha)
Weakness:
Remote bug (not a biggie for me). Can''t make it fit in audio rack After 6 years of savouring my aging Onkyo TX-SV515PRO I decided that it was time to upgrade. Not really caring about testing, listening, comparing etc. I decided to go on easy lane and base my final choice SOLELY on what you fine people recommend on this site. Not the way to go but hey...I went that way anyway. I have: Energy 22.2''s (mains) Energy ECC-1 Center Energy E:XL-S12 Sub Polk Audio 7A as rear surrounds Mission Model 73 as rear center Cheapie Norcent DVD Player Onkyo Integra DX-706 CD Player AudioQuest - Monster - Custom cables all around When I first plugged it in I simply couldn''t describe the new sound coming out...I slapped Fiona Apple''s "Paper Bag" and was saying to myself: "Wow, she''s like 15 feet closer than she used to be" then I tried some Portishead and noticed the clarity and integrity of each cymbal, once again compared to my Onkyo. After several weeks of listening to various albums and your typical assortment of DVD''s I was finally sold (stereo and HT). I''m saying finally because I was not accustomed to hear my Energy''s so.."unbright" and thought I was missing out on some high frequencies. After more listening I concluded that virtually all sluggishness and muddiness vanished, replacing it with VERY CLEAN, warmer sound. Good thing I didn''t go with Denon, prolly too warm for me...on the other hand i''ll never know..;) Home Theatre sound is ten times better than Pro Logic alone. I won''t go into that...i''ll just say that all movies I watched produced smooth yet very upfront sound - Hey i''m not missing my old Onkyo a bit, that''s all that counts for me Similar Products Used: Onkyo TX-SV515PRO |
[May 04, 2002]
rgray
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
Powerful for 80 watts per. Lots of inputs and outputs. Tweak to your hearts content.
Weakness:
Component Vidoe output is a problem Large Size of all high-end A.V Recievers This is an Excellent Home Theater amp, which becomes a superbly adjustable sound controller for mid to high end Audiophiles to adjust to their hearts content. Yamaha finally made the jump to Dolby Pro Logic II bringing this receiver into the upper echelon of A/V receivers. While I have become a fledgling Audiophile it is equipment such as this that prods me to re-budget my expenses to find a better set of speakers to match the RX-V1200. Here are a few of my impressions of the RX-V1200. 1. The 80 Watt x 6.1 channel rating must be a misprint. Actually it is probably a more accurate rating than many of the other Mass Market Types (read Pioneer, JVC, Kenwood…) As I have auditioned three different sets of speakers looking for “my set.” 2. The 6.1 Channel sounds that far outstrips several of the more expensive competitors. With a full yet smooth delivery of its signals during Home Theater Applications such as Episode 1: Star Wars using the DTS ESX settings there was a smooth yet powerful transitions as the Action scenes rushed by. I am not sure if this is a tribute to Mr. Lucas and his direction of sound production in the movie, but it is quite a treat to feel more of a movie. 3. The 6 channel Stereo is a wonder for listening to Jazz, Blues, R&B oldies Rock all sound good. It is a special thing to hear something new when sitting down to Hendrix, Clapton, The Police and Led Zepplin from the old school and then jumping to the new talent such as Lennie Kravitz, Pink (Yes! she can get me going) and Ashantai. But letting out the feminine voices of Madonna or Whitney Houston is where this system shines. The “tweability” of this Receiver is a never-ending plaything that keeps me out of trouble according to my lady. 5. The 6 channel input will get its fair share of use when I decide who gets my hard earned $$ be it SACD or DVD-A as soon as that silly competition allows prices to come down on not just the equipment but also the media itself. 8. For those of you who scoff at the DSP Settings, you must have little patience for setting up you system. As evidence the 70mm Theater settings add a sense of largeness to my medium sized entertainment room. 9. Inputs, more inputs and even more inputs. You must read the manual, and pay attention to the input settings, but you can change the assignments of the Coaxial and Optical Digital Inputs, and the I.O Assign Similar Products Used: Denon 2802 and 1802, Harmon Kardon 520,Yamaha RX-V520, Pioneer VS850 |
[May 04, 2002]
Npais
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
Ultra clean, powerful, smooth transients. Nice styling and remote.
Weakness:
Binding posts are too close together (I am reaching here). This is a review for the RX-V2200, which is not listed in this space. I upgraded from my old Denon AVR-1801 and originally had the HTR equivalent of the RXV-1200 in my system for one week, before I decided on the 2200. I can say with confidence that these (-x200) are the best receivers Yamaha has ever made, with high output, low distortion and very pleasing sonic qualities! No more ear-bleeding at high levels (sorry Denon). Not bright either--if anything, I think these are a little on the dark side (could be a break in issue with my new B&W''''s). Great dynamic range--transients are fast and then gone. An excellent value at $1000, but not a huge improvement over the 1200 (which is $200 less). My system now consists of: B&W 603 Fronts B&W 601 Surrounds B&W LCR600 Center B&W ASW600 Sub Yamaha RXV-2200 Receiver Panasonic RP-91 DVD Rhino Cable speaker wire Monster Interconnects I couldn''''t be happier. Similar Products Used: Denon, Marantz |
[May 03, 2002]
Bill
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
Haven''t really used the theatre side much yet, but the audio capability is very good. Price seems fair for what you get.
Weakness:
None I know of. Haven''t had long enough to comment on reliability. My old stereo receiver died - had to get a new one. Told the guy at a audio shop I trust (NOT Circuit City, etc.) that I wanted to do HT eventually but I also wanted good stereo music quality right away from my new receiver. He recommended the 1200 - and I''m very pleased. Sounds GREAT, plenty of low end, very clear and even, no harsh highs. I wound up buying new speakers too about a week later, much higher end than I''ve ever had before - I think if the receiver had glaring faults I''d be hearing them. I also like the clean styling and its easy to use. The salesman said I''d have to go to around $3,000 in the Rotel line to get perceptibly better audio performance. I believe it - but I''ll admit I''m no audio expert. I am a musician though and I think I''ve developed a decent ear over the years. |
[Apr 28, 2002]
g_exodus
Casual Listener
Strength:
Quality of sound, power, Dsp modes.
Weakness:
Remote bug. I upgraded my system from a Sony STR-DB830 with Jamo Classic 6 fronts, Classic 4 rears, Center Alto and SW 505E. For amp I got a RX-V 1200 and Infinity Alpha 50 fronts, Klipsch RC3 II front center, Klipsch SS 1 Dipole rears, Klipsch SC 1 rear center and kept the SW Jamo 505E (punches alot of sound). With the front center,back center and rears dipoles set as small and the Infinitys set as large (great speakers by the way, much better sound than any of the B&W 60* series for the money they cost ~ 800Euros) the sound is simply amazing. I liked though more the ease of seting up the sony but this amp is much much better sounding and the Dsp modes do great job. The amp is equally good for stereo music or home theater use. For the price and the features the amp has it is just unbeatable. The remote has a small bug (when you switch from tv to amp it still controls the tv so you have to switch to dvd in between to get the remote to work right) but this should not turn you away from this amp. The 80W of power per channel is more than enough for any type of room (unless you run a real cinema). Great Amp and plenty of functions, cool look and very well built. I did compare it with Denon 2802, Marantz SR-7200, Pioneer VSX-859RDS, Sony STR-DB1070, Onkyo TX-DS696S and none could stand next to this amp. One great piece of work form Yamaha in the middle class amps. I would only change this amp for a Pioneer VSA-AX10 but hey... this ia a different category and much more expensive amp. Quote: I got this amp for 1070€ not US$. Similar Products Used: Maranz SR-7200, Denon 2802, Pioneer VSX-859RDS, Onkyo TX-DS696S and Sony STR-DB1070. |
[Mar 29, 2002]
sanjiva
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
Clean, crisp and detailed sound, powerful, good looking, plenty of connections, DPL II
Weakness:
Nothing to that extent actually Got this product after extensive research, hours of listening to them in audio shops and reading all the reviews I could find on them. Based on all the above, I narrowed down the choice to Yamaha or Denon. This was based on a combination of factors, mainly - price, features, audio quality and built quality. It finally boiled down to Yamaha RX-V1200/2200 and Denon 2802/3802. I found 1200 to be far superior to 2802 on all the factors I mentioned above. I liked 3802 a lot but somehow felt it was too "warm" sounding. While it sounded sweet and nice, it seemed to filter out some of the high frequencies. Yamaha sounded very detailed, very clean and somehow seemed to give you much more information. It also did not distort at all at very loud levels either. For my needs, I found 1200 to have everything I needed and did not feel the need to spend extra to get 2200. I am running them with Def Tech Procinema 100 series and the sound is just awesome. I could not be happier. Music in stereo is blissful but music as well as regular TV in DPL II was a pleasant revelation. DPL II works a great magic on ordinary movies broadcast on cable network. The receiver is powerful, crisp and detailed. It has got plenty of connections and looks cool with the front panel metal cover. Remote and manual could be far better though. |
[Mar 28, 2002]
topart
AudioPhile
Strength:
Clean power, rich sound. Great looking sleek unit. Tonnes of DSP and usable surround modes. Ability to customize DSP settings to the room. Yamaha build quality.
Weakness:
I''d be nit picking This is a great unit. I upgraded from an RX-V590. The 1200 is 80 watts RMS. It will fool you....its not short on power so no worries. Yamaha did wonders in this department. I assume due to a heavy power supply and the TopArt design. This unit pushes with no problem. It’s much louder and much cleaner than the 590. I’m using Tannoy PBM 8 mains, a Paradigm C-150 front centre. Paradigm Atoms for left and right surround. Paradigm C-70 rear centre, and a Paradigm PDR 112 sub woofer. During DTS movies like Gladiator which is discrete 6.1 channel. The room is full, I can’t imagine more volume. If you close your eyes you can tell exactly what is happening and where events are placed in the sound scape. The other surround modes are awesome. Particularly the matrix functions. The amp does not die out when using the full six channels. I’ve compared the 1200 against other units boasting more power and bragging THX and 100 watts, and there is just no comparison. Anyone can claim a 100 or 110 watts, but of what? Distortion maybe. The 1200 are clean right through the power range. I really like the Processor direct function which allows you to bypass all of the signal processing as far as bass boost and bass and treble are concerned. It allows for a cleaner sound as it is being routed right through to the amp section. Don’t be fooled by the THX cert on other receivers. THX is good but its more a marketing thing, that’s just my opinion. Yamaha does not use it. Yamaha develops their own chip sets. THX is a costly tag for someone to put on there equipment. Yamaha im sure would meet and exceed this spec. But why? The end result would be more money for there products. As far as music goes. Well the 1200 is pure enjoyment to the ears. Especially in 6 channel stereo. That’s just incredible. I know some complain of boom ness or too much midrange, not enough highs. But that’s got allot to due with speakers to. I have no problem at all with what I hear. But in the end use your own judgement. Just make sure you compare units on the same set of speakers. And finally. For those who are power hungry. Don’t get fooled by the numbers, the difference between 80 watts and 100 watts is for the most part inaudible. Humans talking is around 60db. That’s not loud. To get a 3 db increase from your system you need to double amp power. Just food fo Similar Products Used: Yamaha RX-300 U Yamaha RX-V590 Yamaha RX-V595 |
[Mar 24, 2002]
RKelly
Audio Enthusiast
Strength:
Crisp clear sound throughout volume spectrum. Lots of low end punch. DSP modes. DPLII, 6chnl stereo. Sleek sophisticated drop-down front-door styling. Hides tuner tuning buttons, a/v & optical inputs, headphones jack, all the less commonly used buttons. True 6 chnl discrete amplification. Video switching on all inputs;Composite, S-Video & Component. On screen display.
Weakness:
Non Ergonomic remote. Effects chnl Input settings not memorized from one to the other. Remote defect After demoing a lot of entry level DD/DTS receivers I just could not find one with any low end punch or crystal clear highs until now. This receiver even though it''s only rated at 80wpc, out performs any 100wpc entry level receiver I''ve tried by a landslide. Even at high volumes there''s no distortion or clipping! All the entry level units I''ve demoed and tried would decrease in volume when you activate 5 & 6 chnl stereo from 2 chnl stereo. Not this guy! You have to turn the volume down not up! I assume it''s because of the discrete amplifiers for each chnl. Has plenty of a/v i/ps & o/ps and 4,2 assignable digital i/p & o/ps. A good OSD which is only o/p via the composite or S-video but not the component video jacks. Like the drop down front door that hides a lot of not so commonly used buttons. Gives a very sleek look! This is the only receiver I''ve tried where the various DSP modes are pleasing and make quite a difference! DPLII/Neo6 are definitely a step up. But like everything it''s not perfect. The channel volume levels are NOT remembered for each i/p selected. If you adjust the sbwfr volume in CD mode to 2dB it will carry to all other i/ps. It does NOT remember each inputs settings! The remote seems to have a bug. If you use the learning feature and manually learn buttons from other remotes these will override the receivers AMP control buttons even when the remote is in AMP mode. (ie) Learn the number 1 on the key pad while in TV mode, switch to AMP mode, the "1" button still controls the TV! It should select "HALL" DSP mode. Yamaha has duplicated this and is working on a solution. Manual could be a little better also. Does not have a good flow to it. It jumps back and forth between topics before fully explaining its current section! I did not want to spend nearly $1400 CAD taxes in on a HT/music receiver but I knew I would not be disappointed! I''m glad I did! |