Bass, 3D sound (sort of), Look.

PRICE, SALES PITCH

Ok. I own some Nuance speakers. I Can't really say anything too bad about then. They sound great and look great in my den. Although, I haven't heard all models of speakers I have heard Paradigms and Marige Or what ever they are. Anyway, I find that the nuance speaker and sub blow these away. I did notice that the sound in my house is not quite like the sound in the "Sales Pitch" room. But never the less they sound great. I suggest that if you are going to buy a set of nuance speakers then don't let the sales person push you around. I found that I thaught I was getting a good deal but actually it sucked. When you go to a dealer they will ask you "What do I have to do to get you to leave with these speakers today". When they say this I suggest you begin bargining. I bought just the 200 watt sub (which at the time was the same price as the 100 watt) and 2 - 3 way towers. For a wopping 2200. Now when I look back I think i could have walked out with them for maybe 1500. But the mistake is made. So, nuance is a very good speaker and as I have read and agree with "if it sounds good to you and the price is RIGHT, then you know what you want better than anyone".

geat sound, deep bass, feels like your at the concert or in the movie.

needs big power supply

I don''t think people should post opinions based on price your if you don''t own them. I very happy with my nuance''s. I have a 700 watt yamaha amp (rms for people who actually know what i''m talking about) it runs them great. The reason i''m telling you this is because u need a big power supply to run any high quality speaker it comes with the territory. So you dicks out there who excpect u can run them with a 300 watt pionner and get good sound quality should read up on stereo''s before u buy one. thats half the battle to not get ripped off. Do u really think u have to buy 50,000 to get great sound. Maybe u should learn how to properly set it up to. I can my two fronts crystal clear 3 blocks away. and oh yeah i have two rears just like them cause B&w counldn''t keep up to them.

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nothing else like them

AWESOME SOUND,fantastic warranty,great people(if you want to talk to George Baker himself,just call him.I have.He''s actually a pretty cool guy.And the guy I talked to at Krazy Krazy,Ron,was knowledgable,polite and,I felt,sincere).

Poor salesman(in other stores) who resort to degrading other people''s product instead of showing off their own.PLEASE make up your own mind and don''t let the stuff on here steer you the wrong way.I mean what if it really is that good!?I think most intelligent people will see through all the crap on here and see it for what it really is:a desperate attempt to plant a seed of doubt in the minds of legitimate consumers too ready to believe "its too good to be true".WELL,WHAT IF IT IS THAT GOOD?!

First and foremost,let me make one thing very clear:sound is a matter of personal preference.Everyone has their own idea about what sounds good and the beautiful thing about it is that everyone is right.What I cannot stomach is the idea that any one has the right to tell me what I like.And the fact is that I LOVE these speakers.They are awesome!I know I''m probably gonna have some guy from futureshop or a&b sound trash me for saying that,but I know what I like.I have heard alot of other speakers,and certainly would agree that alot of them are also very good.Just not like my nuance.I do have a couple of observations for anyone who is actually serious about what is really going on here. 1.I found it quite interesting that when I was shopping for my sound system and mentioned nuance,the first thing everyone wants to do is go on the internet to show me why I shouldn''t be buying nuance(made me wonder who is really posting these reviews.There is a review in here from a guy who says he works for nuance.And he''s trashing them?!HUH!?)Fact is ,if I want to check the internet,I can do it myself,thanks. 2.If its all just a Q-sound demo,then why wouldn''t all the other stores have a copy of the disc to play every time someone mentioned nuance(after all,in todays world any music you want is only a quick download away).The one place that did play Roger Watters,it sounded pretty good,even "spatial",but not even close to what my nuance did.And when he played his music ,trying to impress me ,I understood why he had to resort to other tactics.It wasn''t even close. 3.Why do so many other things sound so amazing and "spatial"that are clearly not Q-sound discs(Q-sound is a type of recording that represents approx.0.01% of all the music that is available.That % alone makes that argument insignificant).I myself listen mostly to Rock music,both old and new,but my wife listens to country music and my kids listen to the newer dance and hip hop.I have yet to hear ANYTHING that hasn''t absolutely impressed me 4.Most of the world''s greatest thinkers and inventors have encountered huge resistance to ideas that went against what everyone else was saying.Maybe its just different. Not better,not worse.Just different.

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everything and then some.

Speaker hook ups on the bottom of those 150lbs. mother*#%@s

Where do I begin. Well I guess I should say that Nuance has been one of the best speakers I''ve ever owned. Sure I''m not what alot of you jackasses call an "audiophile"(what is an audiophile anyways), but I do research everything I buy. I''ve been in the music industry for about 10 years, I like to play it and listen to it, I install car stereos and hook up house systems. I''ve also owned everything from Paradigm, Yamaha, Alpine, Denon, Harmon Kardon, Pioneer, Panasonic, Phoenix Gold, Marshall, Zenith, Kenwood, and Line6. And I personally think Nuance are some damn good speakers. You guys are all out there complaining about this "spatial sound" crap, if your just buying these speakers because you want to hear a Ferrari drive from one side of your room to the other, call your friend up and ask him to drive his car through your house, or just go stand on the street for a few minutes. I bought them for the sound quality, I have a 110 watt Denon powering them and have cranked my system so loud that my neighbourghs have called the cops because they can''t hear themselves mow their grass, andthey have never even distorted or came close to blowing. In short, I think my Baby Grands rock. Sure they were a little pricey but, unlike some people who don''t know how to talk the salespeople down, I can. They advertised price for them was $8800 plus tax, I talked them down to $3500 even, and they through in 200ft of speaker wire, a DVD player and a receiver.

Soundstaging

Other peoples spiteful envy

Nuance builds speakers of a style, type and performance unmatched in other brands at this time. The ability for a loudspeaker to disappear leaving only the 3 dimensional soundstage that would exist at a live performance is a difficult objective to achieve - but one in which nuance excels. Sit back, relax and enjoy the awesome experience of Spatial Sound. It will take away stress and relieve anxieties and allow you to enjoy a fuller and more complete life without fear of other peoples opinions and with due regard for all those things in and from life which encourage and enable growth, love and harmony. Music is for life lovers. thank you Nuance.

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Mercedes

I just loved these speakers, I liked everythign about them

bad reviews make me think twice, 3 times, 4 times, etc.

Well let's see...I stopped by a local shop I deal with today, and the guy I know there took me in the back and gave me the demo on these speakers. You know the one, "Wood Cutter" I was impressed, as anyone would be the first time they heard anything like it(I have not been around to many other places to look at towrrs) as for the nuance salesman not letting you listen to your own music, he asked me what i listened to, and then broke out a cd that he had that had the same stuff I like listening to and I liked it. good bass, nice mid, nice high, it was all around great sound, but I am far from an audiophile. these speakers would be an upgrade from my JBL 610 bookshelf speakers, so they will do everything better, as well as let me lose a seperate bass unit I have now (it's crap anyways) the guy told me they were $3500 can, but after a pause, he told me $1400, then said he would give me $200 off that for my jbl speaks I already had which I was interested in cause that's what I paid for them. Again, all around I was very impressed with the speakers, I thought I was special with the $1400 price but I see it is a common price. after reading all the reviews I see that I am at the very least gonna have to tell him at the most I will pay is $1200, and i KEEP my jbl's as rears. and one review said people either REALLY love the nuance speakers, or they really hate them, and I agree. I am a lover, not a hater, but I don;t even have them yet. I highly doubt that I will be able to find anything better for the same price in town, not unless I make a lot of new friens in the audio industry, but I have to pay off a little debt before I buy anything, so maybe I'll do just that :P thanks for the help and the opinions guys, but I think I will still see myself buy ing them...the hardcore audiophiles hate them, the mediocre listeners love them, I fit into th elatter category, so i think these will be the best things I could purchase

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I find them the design very sleek.the sound travells and is verry clear..

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I purchase these spatial grand speakers for surround sound. I bought the whole shebang package, four dual 8 inch 300 watts and a dual 8 inch center speaker all together I have five speakers and i find i get awesome results find they throw the sound and the base. When i watch a movie i get the feeling if being there. The sound stays clear and strong at high volume..I would like to know if i paid to much for them though the set cost me $2800 with taxes .. 4 Model # 3CS
dual 8" spacial grand. 1 dual 8" center .All with the mesh finish

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Vivid,compared them to cerwing wega

All around a great speaker. Listen yourself, ignore the salesperson, and take your own music/videos.

Nothing for the product itself. Lack of info/subjective reviews.

I just can't believe all of the poor reviews on this site. And the talk about .50 drivers and crossovers... What are these people doing pulling apart their speakers?? Or have they just "heard" this from someone else, and just go with it? Regardless, I had a pair of Paradigm 9SEs and I bought the Nuance to replace them. I haven't been disappointed yet. I actually just purchased the matching centre channel today. Bottomline is that they sound excellent...low or high volume. I'm running an HK AVR55 with a Toshiba 3108 and Mirage for rear speakers. Possibly, the people who don't like these speakers have garbage components...garbage in, garbage out. Beyond that, I find the construction to be excellent; I would say better than the Paradigms that I used to have. The only better that I've seen is Klipsch, and the ones that I had were to the point of ridiculous and sounded very harsh. Get past these scares from people who obviously have something against the brand, ignore the salesperson, and take a good listen. I've had/auditioned a lot of speakers, and dealt with a lot of different people regarding stereo equipment...techies, Euros, rockers etc. etc. Don't let the buying experience kill your judgement. I'm very careful when I buy, and once you get to the best price on these, they're a decent value and in my world (not sure where these other people are from...), they sound outstanding. Remember that you need good components...don't expect to hook these up to low end Pioneer, Sony etc. and be amazed. Go for HK, Denon, Onkyo... You won't be disappointed. I'm not...even if they use .50 woofers...

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Reasonable bass reproduction for HT

Strain the listener, poor quality construction, cheap components, exorbitant markup, pushy yet barely-knowledgable sales staff

The other reviews posted are quite interesting, and I would have liked to have had access to them before I made the unthinkable mistake and purchased a pair of Spatial 3S's (from International Stereo). My true mistake wasn't that we (my girlfriend and I) bought them, but rather that I didn't research the purchase first. If only I knew then what I know now.

The sound:
Well, as I use them primarily for HT, they actually sound decent enough. Plenty of decent bass, so much so that I don't need a sub. Mids are all over the place, depending on the recording and the subject matter. Highs are strained. For music, they are difficult to listen to for very long - they strain your ears, especially at loud volumes. You don't notice any of the negatives in the demo though.

Compared to others:
Compared to other speakers is a little more difficult. A friend has some small expensive floor-standing B&W's which although are well respected, are tinny, brash, and lacking bass. I also did the demo thing after buying them, and listened to lots of different speakers. It really depends on what you want out of a speaker, as for sound. No bass- big bass, up front mids - muted mids, etc. Listen, listen, listen. And those same speakers may not sound the same in your home as they did in that small room at the stereo place. If I could go back, I would much rather get a new set of Paradigms. Perhaps someday ...

The speaker:
It is actually a marvel of engineering in that this $20 pile of stuff can make "decent" noises. The cabinets are lightweight particle board crap of average design and substandard construction. The "paper, painted to look like plastic" drivers are as cheap as they come, and the crossovers are simplisticly (positional 3D sound, my butt!) made with low quality components and 20 (or was it 22) gauge wiring. That gold-tipped 12 gauge speaker wire "garden hose" that you paid good money for is hooked up to the equivalent of a "baby bendy straw". Even the damping materials inside are fixed by spattered hot glue. And it was mentioned before that at one time, they were suitable for biwiring, even though the posts were only connected to each other.

Cheap construction means it is easy for them to replace even the entire speaker under that great 10 year warranty.

Value:
This is the real sore spot I have. If they were perhaps sold for their true value plus a few bucks, you could tell yourself "I wasn't suckered" (and repeat). But when you compare them with speakers even half of what they "say" they cost, it is obvious that these things aren't up to snuff. THEY ARE NOT AN AUDIOPHILE GRADE SPEAKER! Don't think that they are, and don't let them snow you with the prices they quote. The US Military spent $5000 (or whatever) on a hammer, and this is the same thing.

The sales experience:
Suckers are born every minute, and the designated retailers (International Stereo in Edmonton and it appears as Soundsaround in Calgary) are looking for those males in their early twenties who need a "boomin' home stereo system" to fulfill their maleness. That doesn't mean that they won't promise the world to anyone else though.

The markups on the stuff are outrageous (as much as 200% on some models), yet it gives them ample room to "deal" on the price. A&B Sound now carries them here, more for comparison purposes than anything else, so you can see that the "$5000" pair of Grands should only really be sold for $1498 (but not really).

The Q-sound scam demo is typical, and when I started asking tough questions about the demo system and other things that would obviously change when I got home, the Nuance guy tried to snow me with technical jargon. And this was a completely impromptu demo, so I didn't have any test music with me to throw at the rep. But who's the dummy - I bought some anyway.

Various other tidbits:
I learned some other interesting things while researching in my post-purchase doldrums. The "beat on the street" from Huggy Bear is that you won't find any reviews or information about these speakers anywhere (the entire Nuance line), because the manufacturer forbids it. They have even gone so far as to sue magazines that attempted to review their products. That's why when you look for anything about Nuance, there's nothing there. The rep will tell you that they don't believe in reviews or technical specifications, which only means that the less the public knows about their products, the better.

Conclusion:
Don't feel too bad if you bought some of these speakers - they sound okay, if you paid $500 for them. If not, time to soak that wet noodle - it's time for some lashes. Next time, do your homework first.

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Great imaging, good bass, spatial sound

Not any at all.

I don't know what everyones problem is with Nuance. When I bought my Pioneer Plasma TV, I wanted the best sound quality available, since I spent $22000 on a TV. I looked everywhere, A&B, Visions, K&W, Smart Homes, and after I went to Soundsaround and listened to Nuance, I don't think I'll ever go back. The rep is a real nice guy (D.C.) who helped me make the decision, and even played his CDs on Polk Audio and Mirage speakers with the same Amp on them. As a millionaire, I can pretty much afford anything I want, and I felt that for the money, Nuance is the way to go. I have outfitted my entire media room with Nuance, and plan to do the rest of my house very soon. I bought the BabyGrand3ELX for the fronts, and they blow away anything I have ever listented to. Go to the Crowfoot Soundsaround, they know their speakers, and they can help you out, even if you don't like Nuance. Go listen to them very carefully before you make any rash decisions, I'm sure you'll be surprised.

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