Sunfire True Subwoofer MKII Subwoofers

Sunfire True Subwoofer MKII Subwoofers 

USER REVIEWS

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[Aug 06, 2001]
TheEAR(s) Hearing Aids
Audiophile

Strength:

Huge output down to 25Hz,plays with power to 20.No boominess,clean bass.Compact,great built quality,awesome 10 inch active driver.

Weakness:

Punks like Joe Blow(Rob Bab-Cock)who never owned and will never own quality subs.No serious threat,these say BOSE is good and SONY makes good subs.LOL you get the picture

I speak from experience the Sunfire MARK2 has huge output down to 25Hz,it does not have to be placed in a corner.It sounds even better along a wall.

On movies and on music it delivers deep bass,and with no boominess like most cheap subs.Just listen at home and you will agree.

Joe Blow(Rob Bab-Cock)is a little frustrated punk who has no idea what a real sub should do.He probably own a Sony WM-40 and raves how he loves the clean bass(as clean as punlic waste).

I have this sub set with Dynaudio Contour 1.1 and it integrated very well.And the Dynes are some of the best minimonitors you can buy at ANY price.

So if a clown like Rob Bab-Cock starts his stand up comic number just pass.He is a genetic liar.

Use your ears and be the judge.

Similar Products Used:

Velodyne HGS10,HGS12,Sunfire Junior,Signature,Carver Knight Shadow,Revel B15,Aerial Acoustics SW12,Klipsch LF10,Infinity Prelude subs,REL Q200E,REL Storm and several others(yes I had all these home and own 5 subs on this list,unlike some punks who rate subs just by hearing at some store or exposition)

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
4
[Aug 09, 2001]
Donald McRaven
Audiophile

Strength:

The compact size allows for placement virtually anywhere. The sound was both equally impressive on Music as well as on Movies.

Weakness:

The crossover might leave a slight gap when you set the processor to a small speaker setting if you have bookshelf size speakers that do not extend low enough to meet the the upper end of the spectrum of the crossover in the sub.

The sub has played flawlessly since I've had it. I found it is best to turn up the crossover to 100hz and set the processor speaker set up to the small setting, which will allow the amp to play with more proficiency. The sub in turn will take of the mid-bass and the lower frequencies. I found the best placement is in the corner with the drivers facing the walls at a angle. I then set the phase control to 190. But, before you move it all around the room for the best position in your room, be sure to try rotating the sub, you might just be suprised. Remember, if it is set to play music accurately, then it should be optimal for movie playback.

Similar Products Used:

The only product sub that I had owned was the powerfield 1800 Definitive Technology sub. Great sub if you have the space and the money.

OVERALL
RATING
4
VALUE
RATING
4
[Jul 11, 2001]
George
Audiophile

Strength:

Great extended low frequency, Ease of use, Size, Connections

Weakness:

No12volt control connection, Grounding problem (easily resolved).

The subs main problem is a ground issue, this is easily remedied by using a 2 prong ground adaptor. The sound of this box is incredible. Very tight, quick and accurate. I replaced a Velodyne HGS series sub with this and was very pleased. It can be over powering if your not careful. It matches my Paradigm Reference speakers well and was a great addition to my system. It is a High End Sud that is a great deal even if you pay full price. Listen to it for yourself. Below you will see a review form “ROB” can anybody tell me what the hell he is talking about and where he gets this bogus information?

Similar Products Used:

Velodyne, B&W

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
[Jul 05, 2001]
TheEAR(s) Hearing Aids
Audiophile

Strength:

Incredible output for this size,no midbass(read fake slam most subs exibit,percieved as speed),great built quality,outstanding for HT and good on music if set up properly.

Weakness:

Reviewers like Rob Bab-Cock who dont have any idea what they are talking about.Rob is deaf or works for the competition and is paid to post bad reviews to insert doubt in the buyer!All who listen to well set up Sunfire subs and who want a great compact HT sub know Rob Bab-Cock is as full of it as a public toilet.Just listen to his BS,its a clear sing Rob lies to you.

And one more time I have to post!Yes Rob Bab-Cock is clearly not any reviewer or owner but an angry little man who cant stand competition.Or maybe he is deaf!Who knows

For starters this sub is not designed to match small minimonitors.It has no upper bass,at all.It starts to fall off above 70-80Hz.So some will say its slow and muddy.

If you want a great sub with some upper bass get a M&K MX700,it will be a match made in heavens with most tiny minimonitors.The REL Q200E may be another good option.

Now the Sunfire has big output down to 25Hz in my room!25Hz is real deep bass,few other micro subs can match this.The Sunfire Mark 2 needs speakers with bass down to 50Hz solid to blend well.Most mid sized monitors should work well.

My Dynaudio Contour 1.1's are ideal,they have usable output down to 40Hz!The match is perfect.

And one last thing this sub has no boominess,if you hear any you need to cheak your hearing.Even if corner loaded the bass is not boomy.You may get bass humps(say +10 dB at 30-45Hz for example)but no boominess.Boominess comes from cabinet resonance and ports.All Sunfires are sealed designs,sealed or with a passive radiators.And the cabinets are very rigid so they cant resonate below 200Hz and cause "boominess".


Next tome Rob tries to rob you off your time be writing lies just skip the lies.


So when I say this Sunfire earns a 4/5 it does warrant a solid 4/5.Even if you have more musical subs(like M&K MX700 and REL Q200E..almost the same cabinet with a similar driver and a MOSFET amp).





Similar Products Used:

REL Q200E,Energy Microstar 12,Velodyne HGS10,M&K MX700 and other mini subs

OVERALL
RATING
4
VALUE
RATING
4
[Dec 21, 2000]
Rob Babcock
Audiophile

I have posted my opinion on most of this speaker line, as well as many other pieces of gear and many other issues audio. I would like to offer my opinion of this piece; however, I'd like to preface my review with an observation.

It seems to me that the Sunfire site is beginning to resemble the Bose site. As with that brand, it seems that this one is becoming increasingly polarized. Disturbingly, as with Bose, it seems that in many cases name recognition and WAF are increasingly overriding rational discussion on the actual merits of the gear. I hate to see the issue becoming partisan, with True Believers doing battle with the Obviously Uninformed who seek to "down" the Sunfire, whether by malice of forethought or just ignorance (especially that since one didn't like the piece, de facto, the sub was "incorrectly set up/demoed/placed/wrong phase of the moon/ad nauseum).

Let me assert without vitriol or histrionics what I feel the Sunfire Sub is: innovative, mechanically ingenious, compact, trend-setting, powerful. Also let me state what I feel it is not: accurate, musical, tight, CONTROLLED.

It's perhaps natural for reviews contrary to ones own opinion to illicit negative feelings and ill will in a fan of that piece of gear. Such as the criticism extends to the gear in question and the criticism is given and taken in good faith, this site performs a valuable service. But where this forum is used as a bully pulpit to denigrate and browbeat those who don't like your pet piece of gear, insinuating that they MUST have some agenda aside from that of honest discourse, this site breaks down and fails in its primary mission of exchanging ideas and information freely and openly. If I've contributed to this problem, outside of the Bose page, I apologize.

End of rant. On the subject of the Sunfire, I really didn't care for it. I've posted my opinions of the other subs Sunfire makes, writing here for the sake of completeness. Give that this piece is an improved version of the older models, I figured I'd give it a listen. But I really don't think it performs substantially better than it's predecessors, still uncontrolled in the midbass and a tad thin in the real low bass area. If you need a really small sub, this one is aces. If you need a really good sub, look elsewhere.

Just my own opinion. At the exorbitant price for the level of performance, I can't recommend it. If you can find it for $500 to $600, perhaps used, it may fill the bill. Just don't buy this sub without listening to the offerings by PSB, JBl, Klipsch and others at the same level of performance. And by all means, if your room can accomodate the bulk, do check out the superior offerings by Velodyne, Paradigm, Hsu Research and Infinity before you settle for the Sunfire.

OVERALL
RATING
2
VALUE
RATING
1
[Feb 23, 1999]
David Petrus

I was stationed in Korea living in a 4 story "L" shaped dormitory when I bought this monster. I was overly impressed with the performance and quality of this sub. It was routinely abused every weekend during dorm parties. Just how loud is loud and low is low, I had people living on the other side of building and 3 floors down complaining to me that they could hear the bass. So I obliged and turned it up louder. No one in the dorm with their Kenwood's, Yamaha's, Energy's, B&W's could compete against my subs.

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
[Feb 27, 2000]
allen wrench
Audiophile

Strength:

loads of bass! ease of use

Weakness:

i blew the first amp.it was replaced by the newer amp. not what i would call musical! it needs to be bolted down or it will run around the house and sometimes it just sits there rattling

i use this for my home studio . i have loaned it out to friends before and all have said that its just too much and of 4 of them 3 said the hum was just too much also.but all of these people live in old vics = bad wiring. when moving once, i picked it up and walked buy (near 2') a 27" tv it now has a really bad colour in the lower left corner so be careful what you put it next to. and buy the way it makes the lights in the house flicker when pushed real hard and thats with a hundred volts at the mains. musically i only use it for electronica - trance and dance and organ music. if you are looking for a sub i would also check out a brand called BAG END. the ratings i give this sunfire is for its contents and capabilities. no it will not mate with your apogees or your martin logans at all

Similar Products Used:

i have built subs in many configurations.non were so effortless. but many were more musical

OVERALL
RATING
4
VALUE
RATING
4
[Sep 18, 1998]
VINCE MURACO
an Audio Enthusiast

I HAVE MY MKII SUB PAIRED WITH 3 TOTEM SPEAKERS INTHE FRONT, AND B+W'S IN THE BACK. THE PROBLEM IS ... THERE IS A LOW HUM COMING FROM THE SUB THAT WILL ONLY STOP WHEN I UNPLUG IT! IT IS NOT NOTICEABLE AT NORMAL LISTENING LEVELS, BUT IN THE EVENING, AT LOW VOLUME IT IS. IF ANYONE HAS ANY SUGGESTIONS PLEASE E-MAIL ME AT VMURACO@YAHOO.COM SUNFIRE'S WEBSITE ISN'T TAKING E-MAILS.
AS FAR AS RATING.... WITH THE HUM, AND HAVING TO UNPLUG IT EVERY NIGHT I GIVE IT A 1...... WITHOUT THE HUM I WOULD GIVE IT A 5 FOR AWESOME SOUND.

OVERALL
RATING
1
VALUE
RATING
[Aug 17, 2000]
Bill
Audio Enthusiast

Strength:

I am a believer!

Weakness:

None yet

Purchasing this sub was a hard choice to make because I could not get over the mental roadblock of accepting that a small box could put out adequate bass. I have been in the audio industry for many, many years, and I have heard many subs over the years. In my experience, bass is like horsepower - there is no substitute for cubic inches. Well, I could not ignore the press and enthusiastic reviewers any longer. Besides, if it turned out that I didn't like the sub I was virtually guaranteed to recoup my purchase price by selling the thing on eBay, so what the heck - I called in the order. Believe what you read here - the Sunfire True Sub mkII is amazing - my hat is off to Bob Carver! This sub has never disappointed and continually astonishes me.

By the way, because I am close involved in the audio retail industry, I had the opportunity to purchase Polk's new $1,300 sub (PSW1200) for 75% off retail through an employee purchase deal(it would have been about $325, no tax, no delivery charge). I had to pay really close to retail for the Sunfire and I can honestly say I would pay 2x retail for this little monster! The Polk (and others in the price range) are simply in a different (much lower) league.

Footnote: There was a hum introduced by my (ungrounded) cable TV line. I had no hum issues with other products, but installing a Sony SAT55A DirecTV satellite system and ditching my crappy digital cable service easily fixed the problem. I could have gone the ground loop adapter route to eliminate the hum, but what the heck - cable can't beat DSS for home theater!

Similar Products Used:

Polk, Klipsch, Paradigm

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
[Sep 20, 1999]
Reg
an Audio Enthusiast

This subwoofer performs really well for its size. I auditioned and found that I really could not live without the more accurate reproduction of a bigger sub. (I got the Servo-15). This sub is AWESOME for movies but only above average for music listening. It is recommended over bigger subs if1) You like the asthetics of a small sub
OR
2) You do a lot more movie watching than music listening.
3 for music but a 5 for movies

OVERALL
RATING
4
VALUE
RATING
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